RATING CHANGES

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2nd November 2009, 12:29am
#1
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

Cautionary Note-- Take Care Chessmates !!! Rate changes much altered eg. retiring at start of game can now cost ( in my case ) minus 10  after only opening moves instead of previous rulings  of " insufficient moves to alter ratings "

2nd November 2009, 12:32am
#2
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 1678

Now that sounds like a good change!

2nd November 2009, 12:50am
#3
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

YES- As long as one knows ruling changed !!

5th November 2009, 04:39am
#4
by pmk78
glasgow Scotland
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 522

cheers for letting us know.  i think its quite a good idea right enough.

thanks xqsme

5th November 2009, 04:50am
#5
by kunduk
kolkata India
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 860

are you sure about it? please say it in detail..

5th November 2009, 05:49am
#6
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

Yes absolutely .. look at my game results  V  jillijoe 11....

5th November 2009, 04:42pm
#7
by alzir
glasgow United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 20

thanks for the update

5th November 2009, 04:50pm
#8
by shane97
California United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1001

Thanks

7th November 2009, 08:18am
#9
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3156

The usual mechanism by which chess.com announces changes is via Forum topics containing the word "FEATURES". If you search for FEATURES, you'll find the following topics:

 

2007

New features on Chess.com! - Chess.com (Aug 2007)

A Few Site Fixes & Updates - Chess.com (Nov 2007)

New Site Features Released Today - Chess.com (Nov 2007) 

 

2008

Site Features & Updates - 6/12/2008 - Chess.com (Note: June! – U.S. date convention)

Features & Updates - June 25th, 2008 - Chess.com

Features & Updates - 31 July 2008 - Chess.com

Site Updates & Features - Aug 26 2008 - Chess.com

New Features & Fixes - Nov 18 2008 - Chess.com

 

2009

New Features & Fixes - Mar 12 2009 - Chess.com

New Features & Fixes - May 3 2009 - Chess.com

 

I've doubtless missed a few - and I haven't seen any announcement for a change to the treatment of game losses or resignations in under 4 moves.

7th November 2009, 08:36am
#10
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

Many thanks for source information artfizz.There is evidence also of reduced gains for wins against higher ratings, though again I may have missed notification of changes in the "scale of charges"

7th November 2009, 09:49am
#11
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 957
xqsme wrote:

Cautionary Note-- Take Care Chessmates !!! Rate changes much altered eg. retiring at start of game can now cost ( in my case ) minus 10  after only opening moves instead of previous rulings  of " insufficient moves to alter ratings "


I believe like Columbus rediscovering America you have rediscovered an unannounced change from February. No minimum moves on a resignation or withdrawal. The more than three moves rule remains on timeouts.

7th November 2009, 09:52am
#12
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 957
xqsme wrote:

....There is evidence also of reduced gains for wins against higher ratings, though again I may have missed notification of changes in the "scale of charges"


Ratings calculation was recently fixed.

7th November 2009, 11:48am
#13
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3156
 xqsme wrote:....There is evidence also of reduced gains for wins against higher ratings, though again I may have missed notification of changes in the "scale of charges"
TadDude wrote: Ratings calculation was recently fixed.

ichabod801 wrote: "With c squared the average RD was 75. With c not squared the average RD was 113 (which is more than the maximum RD with c squared!)."

It would be nice to have a concise summary of the consequences of correcting the factor c to c2 in the rating calculation formula. If I understand ichabod801 correctly, switching to c2 should reduce the amount by which ratings change.


8th November 2009, 02:37am
#14
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

Perhaps also it could be helpful to re announce discovery of America in cases where it had not registered !!  EG   for people too busy playing chess to read all notices OR who might miss them ON VACATIONS  OF PHYSICAL  not  MENTAL variety !!...IF THE CAP FITS.....

8th November 2009, 03:42am
#15
by pmk78
glasgow Scotland
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 522

if this post didnt help you, fair enough......you got the all seeing eye!

obviously it's gave quite a few of us information we didnt already know.

whats the problem with that?

again,  thanks exqsme.

pmk

8th November 2009, 03:57am
#16
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

Thanks pmk but I think i have as usual with me opened my mouth too  much trying to  be too clever in forums... the cap fits me perfectly.Embarassed Still  the subjects  evidently need the extra publicity.

8th November 2009, 04:17am
#17
by xqsme
Lanarkshire (GMT/UTC)+rT Scotland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 2771

A friend of mine has just told me he found his rating devasted by 46 points  in  3 games thru ruling change !!!

8th November 2009, 04:21am
#18
by pmk78
glasgow Scotland
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 522

well you informed me of change, and when challenged, i bite back too.  its only natural (particulary for a scot haha)

8th November 2009, 04:36am
#19
by estevon
Maine United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 1484
xqsme wrote:

A friend of mine has just told me he found his rating devasted by 46 points  in  3 games thru ruling change !!!

 That is very very true.That was me.

8th November 2009, 06:14am
#20
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 957
artfizz wrote:
 xqsme wrote:....There is evidence also of reduced gains for wins against higher ratings, though again I may have missed notification of changes in the "scale of charges"
TadDude wrote: Ratings calculation was recently fixed.

ichabod801 wrote: "With c squared the average RD was 75. With c not squared the average RD was 113 (which is more than the maximum RD with c squared!)."

It would be nice to have a concise summary of the consequences of correcting the factor c to c2 in the rating calculation formula. If I understand ichabod801 correctly, switching to c2 should reduce the amount by which ratings change.

 


A low RD should reduce a player's rating change but their opponent's RD also figures into the calculation so it is possible the RD fix has a small impact on ratings change. There is a calculator provided in the Ratings calculation thread.

As well anyone can monitor average RD here to see if there is any change in average RD. Currently the average RD is 129. It may take awhile to decrease since all the players who have left the site, with their high RDs, have to drop out of the average over the course of the next 12 months.

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