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It has been reported that Napoleon Bonaparte loved chess but wasn't very good at it. That didn't stop him from being one of the great military strategists of his time and a very intelligent man, he just wasn't good at chess. I think with regard to chess the key factor is logic, not intelligence. Using ones Intelligence may come into it later on in a game when a player needs to be creative and make something happen, up to that point if a player has made the most logical moves (which by definition must be the right ones) then he/she will have put themselves in a position to exploit their opponents weaknesses.
Actually Napoleon was a pretty good player.
That's because he had extra pieces tucked away in his coat.
I think logic does help with chess skill among complete beginners. After a little study though that advantage goes out the window.
Ah yes, it's lesser-known that Napoleon was an amateur magician who focused on slight of hand.
Unless Monty Python was right (and it really was a big wedge of cheese in there).
http://www.goddesschess.com/chesstories/blackgm.html So much for Obama being the first black chess master.
What would you estimate the IQ of Rybka ?
In my opinion,I.Q.,progress in real life,progress in the game of chess are completely different things.
I have read about people with 140 I.Q. who works as a waiter because their E.Q. is damn low.
According to a particular web-site,there has to be a balance between all the quotients,or else we are as good as screwed up.
completely different can be quantified as "no correlation" which I don't know if that's what you're intending to say.
Rybka is simply a large set of instructions written by humans. We all know that computers are faster by a factor of millions than human problem solvers in mathematics, however Human Intelligence is more profound than mathematical number crunching - in fact some people are smart and have low IQ, because they take a long time and solve harder problems properly (the human condition vs a machine at math).
Chess is related to IQ but also to combat, its a battle and an opponent moving fast with sharp logical movements can often intimidate (hence not exactly IQ) .
Chess programs aren't perfect, they're still being developed. In the end it boils down to incredible number crunching power that wins, I must admit that a lot of the math is skipped completely by the human visual perceptive system (the ability to comprehend an entire board at once is very helpful)
If a person is intelligent,he will do well in chess,however,its converse according to me,does not seems to be true.It is like that those who have courage,has a sword,but those who have sword might not be courageous. Chess no less analogous to sword here,otherwise everybody will become intelligent.
well Mr Wizard...there may be something to the IQ correlation to chess rating. I do not think you could ever prove or disprove the theory though. One can become very good at chess through practice and studies but still have an average IQ where someone with a genius level or higher IQ may not have a strong enough interest in chess to apply themselves(or the time).
I am a strong believer that anyone can learn anything given enough time but
in my experience those with higher IQ's tend to learn faster so that would give
them an advantage.
I feel for the theory to be proved you would have to take into account their
time playing the game and the amount of studying they have done on it.
This is an intersting theory though and I think there is some truth to it.
I might have to make some time to research it some.
Does it mean that a monkey with enough paper and an breakable typewriter plus a lot of time on hand will eventually type out a Shakespeare play ? How does practice help a chess player ? obviously by the mind absorbing the positions and the pitfalls and the standard moves which require Memory,and an Aptitude for logical thinking . Does it not mean that one has to have a better IQ to be better at Chess?
I've come up with this estimation including all the relevant factors
your IQ * 64 = your potential chess rating
Can someone tell me what a potential chess rating is?
Iam new here
@heinzie:How did you derive that formula?
That'd mean your average Joe should have a 6400 rating.
If there are 3 groups: gifted, average and handicapped, then I must be handicapped because I'm only 1700 rating :(
As can be read from the comment above yours, the average Joe doesn't bother to verify anything they are offered
You said it - this sums up exactly what I might have wanted to say if I could have been bothered writing it! :D
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