Remember Jeff Sarwer from Searching for Bobby Fischer?

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2nd April 2009, 08:17pm
#21
by klc57690
Missouri United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
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After watching the videos from the website originally posted, I myself can't help but wonder where he "could" be today. Bruce himself said, he had never met anyone with such raw talent for the game.

Whether he was "horse's ass" or not he was pretty dang talented

2nd April 2009, 09:04pm
#22
by brandonQDSH
Honolulu, HI United States
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goldendog,

Um who exactly is this Jeff and what character did he play in the movie? 

2nd April 2009, 09:06pm
#23
by goldendog
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brandonQDSH wrote:

goldendog,

Um who exactly is this Jeff and what character did he play in the movie?


 C'mon...just try reading the thread Brandon.

2nd April 2009, 11:50pm
#24
by brandonQDSH
Honolulu, HI United States
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goldendog

My bad. You see when I got to the thread, it was already on page 2, but you were the first post on page 2, hence I thought I was reading page 1 and was like, "Um I don't remember who this guy is". It makes more sense now. That kid was a complete tool!

3rd April 2009, 12:46am
#25
by jpd303
west virginia United States
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i hate "searching for bobby fischer"...just to throw that out there...it should be called "watching josh watskin" or "being bored by bruce pandolfini being played by bing kingsley"  or "searching for bobby fischer in this movie, oh there he is! now hes gone... and were back to watching little kids play fake chess..."  marketing the movie with Bobby's name in the title is kinda low i think...they should make a movie about magnus carleson-hes much better than josh was- and call it something like "looking for garry kasparov"

3rd April 2009, 01:14am
#26
by goldendog
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brandonQDSH wrote:

goldendog

My bad. You see when I got to the thread, it was already on page 2, but you were the first post on page 2, hence I thought I was reading page 1 and was like, "Um I don't remember who this guy is". It makes more sense now. That kid was a complete tool!


 NP, brandon.

Jeff seems like a nice kid but he was being socialized by papa in such a way that he was assured of rubbing people the wrong way. Pretty conceited and off the leash to act out his impulses, and pretty much say what he wished. It's like having a dog indoors that isn't trained to be indoors. The dog may be great but everyone has big problems living with  him/her.

3rd April 2009, 04:35am
#27
by o-blade-o
Algiers Algeria
Member Since: Jan 2009
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I don't know him ...

sorry

3rd April 2009, 10:23am
#28
by brandonQDSH
Honolulu, HI United States
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jpd303

It's highly unlikely that there will be an official search for Kasparov (partially because, uh, we know where to find him). But mostly because Russia has a lot of World Chess Champions. Botvinnik, Spassky, and Tal: you could argue that anyone of them is the greatest of all time. However, the United States only one guy to fall back on, hence all the hype and hoopla regarding Fischer.

All that being said, a movie about Magnus Carlsen would be awesome. His history and career so far does mirror that of the young Fischer. We could call it "Searching For Bent Larsen" except Carlsen doesn't really play like him.

3rd April 2009, 10:37am
#29
by JetSetter
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 195
jpd303 wrote:

i hate "searching for bobby fischer"...just to throw that out there...it should be called "watching josh watskin" or "being bored by bruce pandolfini being played by bing kingsley"  or "searching for bobby fischer in this movie, oh there he is! now hes gone... and were back to watching little kids play fake chess..."  marketing the movie with Bobby's name in the title is kinda low i think...they should make a movie about magnus carleson-hes much better than josh was- and call it something like "looking for garry kasparov"


Read the book and you'll understand the title. The elder Waitzkin is/was a journalist and really did search for Fischer at the time Josh was getting into chess. It's about a parent struggling to reconcile all the weird stuff in chess with all the good, and fighting the urge to try to protect your kid from hurt and disappointment in life. The movie doesn't always capture these subtleties very well.

5th May 2009, 12:46pm
#30
by jim74
England
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 3
JetSetter wrote:
jpd303 wrote:

i hate "searching for bobby fischer"...just to throw that out there...it should be called "watching josh watskin" or "being bored by bruce pandolfini being played by bing kingsley"  or "searching for bobby fischer in this movie, oh there he is! now hes gone... and were back to watching little kids play fake chess..."  marketing the movie with Bobby's name in the title is kinda low i think...they should make a movie about magnus carleson-hes much better than josh was- and call it something like "looking for garry kasparov"


Read the book and you'll understand the title. The elder Waitzkin is/was a journalist and really did search for Fischer at the time Josh was getting into chess. It's about a parent struggling to reconcile all the weird stuff in chess with all the good, and fighting the urge to try to protect your kid from hurt and disappointment in life. The movie doesn't always capture these subtleties very well.


Read the book but beware of big lies which are in it and thus as well as in the Searching for Bobby Fischer (Josh Waitzkin) Trivia by Bill Wall (which he himself put the link to in his post here) about Jeff Sarwer, since your discussion here is about him. The biggest lie is about Josh beating Jeff in a rematch in 1985. It makes one question the credibility of all Fred's information in his book if he would lie about such an important fact about Josh's greatest rivalry. Be assured that the Waitzkin's would have published the actual game if the win ever happened. Jeff also confirmed that they only played 2 tournament games one which Jeff won and the other which became the famous draw which SFBF was based on. In the movie of course the big lie is that Jeff didn't accept the draw and lost the game. In fact, as most of you probably know already, they (Jeff and Josh) drew and shared the title.

If you are interested in another point of view on Jeff Sarwer and Searching for Bobby Fischer (in my opinion more true) you should probably read this:

http://chessatknight.blogspot.com/

18th June 2009, 12:47am
#31
by Karl54
Germany
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 1
brandonQDSH wrote:

goldendog

My bad. You see when I got to the thread, it was already on page 2, but you were the first post on page 2, hence I thought I was reading page 1 and was like, "Um I don't remember who this guy is". It makes more sense now. That kid was a complete tool!



Complete tool? - last time I checked a "complete tool" meant an idiot. Can an idiot be a world chess champion? Is it possible to play simultanous chess with 40 opponents being 8 years old and a complete tool at the same time? Do you think GM Edmar Mednis would invite a complete tool to be a panelist during the World Chess Championship match Karpov-Kasparov? BTW BrandonQDSF, what kind of complete tool can't understand how a thread works? Oops I guess you.

18th June 2009, 12:53am
#32
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land International
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861
Karl54 wrote:


Complete tool? - last time I checked a "complete tool" meant an idiot.

In the states it means the guy is some upright form of rectal pore. 

 

Nothing to do with intelligence, more often it is a reference to a part of the anatomy that is usually not referenced by people pretending to be concerned with children hearing naughty words about people's dangly bits.

 

Thus: idiots could be tools but so too could be the brilliant.

 

BTW: where do you 'check' for these phrases?

 

Looking through a baseball lens it would only mean he is a decent catcher that can't hit so well.  A total Black and Decker.

28th June 2009, 02:51pm
#33
by j_brodu
Concord United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 139

I remember, on some site I saw a recent game of Sarwer's, so he is still playing.

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