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Request for disabling repeated draw offer


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    EstebanTunggul

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    bobbyDK

    that really depends on the position if the position is no where near a book draw keep on posting draw offers is simply a distraction.

    but consider the following position. a draw offer as white on each move in the example is not a distraction it is simply stating the obvious : a book draw. black cannot win

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    EstebanTunggul

    Yeah, I know that a certain situation calls for a proper draw. It's not just yesterday that something like this happened to me. Two other occurences, (1 time I had 2 rooks & 1 Queen, another we were on the heat of exchanges, and the opponent kept pressing draw button and took a piece with a queen and checked my king which apparently can easily be taken by my queen (albeit kind of far therefore my blind spot). In summary, yes I blundered, but I don't really get why these people are allowed using the website system as a form of distraction. Is that really a fair thing to do? I'll leave it to the readers to be the judge.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    Conflagration_Planet

    I agree.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    yakushi12345

    You lost a game because you were distracted by an orange button so much that it made you move incorrectly?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    EstebanTunggul

    yakushi12345 wrote:

    You lost a game because you were distracted by an orange button so much that it made you move incorrectly?

    Given the circumstances I had (pieces, time, etc), yes. Your sarcasm amuses me. Keep trolling.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    waffllemaster

    It shouldn't pop up every time.  I suggest a button that is in affect "I decline and don't show me this window anymore" and all further requests will be ignored and then auto-declined when they move (as it should be if it's not like this already).

    Or actually, I guess I'm not sure if a window even pops up, or it just asks you in chat.  I'm pretty sure it asks you in chat right?  In that case it shouldn't be that distracting Tongue out

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    Helzeth

    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    I've heard ''didnt try''
    I've heard ''didnt care''
    I've heard ''slept badly''

    ''didnt train''

    ''too lazy''

    ''too bored''

    I've even heard ''I saw a forced win but I wanted to keep enjoying my position''

    I've never heard ''the draw offer happened too many times''

    You screwed up. Stop making alibis, this is why you're never russian

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    shengyi

    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    Just ignore it. Make the board big so the panel with the chat, graph, etc. will be pushed out of the screen and you won't see the draw offers.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    EstebanTunggul

    Helzeth wrote:
    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    I've heard ''didnt try''
    I've heard ''didnt care''
    I've heard ''slept badly''

    ''didnt train''

    ''too lazy''

    ''too bored''

    I've even heard ''I saw a forced win but I wanted to keep enjoying my position''

    I've never heard ''the draw offer happened too many times''

    You screwed up. Stop making alibis, this is why you're never russian

    That's why you're never russian? Wow, you know who beat the best Russians? An American out of all people, like the great Bobby Fischer. Your rating is lower than even a regular club player so don't act like you are all that. You're just like the rest of us.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    EstebanTunggul

    K279 wrote:
    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    Just ignore it. Make the board big so the panel with the chat, graph, etc. will be pushed out of the screen and you won't see the draw offers.

    Never thought of that, but will try. Thanks.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    Helzeth

    fudgeball wrote:
    Helzeth wrote:
    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    I've heard ''didnt try''
    I've heard ''didnt care''
    I've heard ''slept badly''

    ''didnt train''

    ''too lazy''

    ''too bored''

    I've even heard ''I saw a forced win but I wanted to keep enjoying my position''

    I've never heard ''the draw offer happened too many times''

    You screwed up. Stop making alibis, this is why you're never russian

    That's why you're never russian? Wow, you know who beat the best Russians? An American out of all people, like the great Bobby Fischer. Your rating is lower than even a regular club player so don't act like you are all that. You're just like the rest of us.

    my rating is above the regular club member, non russian peasant.

    Bobby Fischer was clearly a russian.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    chessgdt

    Helzeth wrote:
    fudgeball wrote:
    Helzeth wrote:
    fudgeball wrote:

    I just drew a game yesterday due to so many distractions with the draw offer on the chatroom (which led me to wrong move). That's just annoying. I'm not simply asking for compensation for the rudeness of the other player, but simply for the better enjoyment of the more mature audience of chess.com.

    Who agreed that a draw offer should be reduced to a certain number of attempts before the server recognizes it as a form of distraction? Put your support by posting.

    I've heard ''didnt try''
    I've heard ''didnt care''
    I've heard ''slept badly''

    ''didnt train''

    ''too lazy''

    ''too bored''

    I've even heard ''I saw a forced win but I wanted to keep enjoying my position''

    I've never heard ''the draw offer happened too many times''

    You screwed up. Stop making alibis, this is why you're never russian

    That's why you're never russian? Wow, you know who beat the best Russians? An American out of all people, like the great Bobby Fischer. Your rating is lower than even a regular club player so don't act like you are all that. You're just like the rest of us.

    my rating is above the regular club member, non russian peasant.

    Bobby Fischer was clearly a russian. IS THIS SARCASM?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    Shivvvy

    Features can be abused and when they are there should be a penalty assessed.  Like aborting too many games, which I did when I started at Chess.com.  After a few warnings, I got the message.  That was me being a Chess.com rookie, I`m also new to Chess.  You`ve received great tips on how you can not be distracted with the `draw` pop ups by maximizing the board.  Putting a limit on the number of times it can be offered will take away from the integrity of the `draw offer`. 

    You`re not being a responsible player, and to be blunt -your request is very selfish.  You can always report abuse by others, that could`ve dealt with the culprit.  But to ask for the offer to have limits just cause you were distracted is incredibly self-absorbed.  Distracted?  Was your dog eating your homework as you played? I`m sure if you won those games then there would be no problem. 

    Yours is the refrain of many self-entitled egomaniacs, Chess players or not, when things don`t go your way you become unreasonable.  Next time think before you act on your frustrations.  This request is that of a weak person ... player or other wise

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    EstebanTunggul

    Shivvvy wrote:

    Features can be abused and when they are there should be a penalty assessed.  Like aborting too many games, which I did when I started at Chess.com.  After a few warnings, I got the message.  That was me being a Chess.com rookie, I`m also new to Chess.  You`ve received great tips on how you can not be distracted with the `draw` pop ups by maximizing the board.  Putting a limit on the number of times it can be offered will take away from the integrity of the `draw offer`. 

    You`re not being a responsible player, and to be blunt -your request is very selfish.  You can always report abuse by others, that could`ve dealt with the culprit.  But to ask for the offer to have limits just cause you were distracted is incredibly self-absorbed.  Distracted?  Was your dog eating your homework as you played? I`m sure if you won those games then there would be no problem. 

    Yours is the refrain of many self-entitled egomaniacs, Chess players or not, when things don`t go your way you become unreasonable.  Next time think before you act on your frustrations.  This request is that of a weak person ... player or other wise

    Umm, I have the right to give my opinion as well. Others had answered my request in a better manner.

    And what's with the namecalling? "Peasant"? "Egomaniac"? Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    By the way, you're not club player level Helzeth, club level is 1800 above approaching 2000. Get over it.

    You guys need to grow up.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    Helzeth

    average club player is 1500 last time I checked. Why is the 1200 peasant slandering my chess.com elo anyway?

    I will give you some proper russian advice; go read the book ''why you lose in chess''

    You know what? Being a superior yet still awfully humble and kind russian, I'll write down part of it for you. You may thank me by admitting your inferiority as a nonrussian.

    ''Discard your alibi


    What's your alibi for losing? You must have one; all chess players have some standard excuse. Seems even the greatest of masters needs an alibi, so you're in distinguished company. One of our leading american players-- let's call him Smith--- always wins a high place in the USA tournament. Smith enters with the hope of winning but he never does. When he fails he points out he was in poor physical shape, he'd been working too hard; he'd had little rest and training before the long grind got under way.

    A stranger hearing his tale of woe for the first time might inquire, ''Well, why didn't you go to the country for a few days? Why didn't you rest? Why didn't you do some training?'' But such questions would be naive, the alibi is more important than the fact, indeed, the alibi creates the fact.

     

    By invoking his alibi, Smith shields himself from the consequenses of his anticipated failure. He also neglects any constructive steps to overcome that anticipated failure, The alibi is protective yet also destructive.

    In your own case, your alibi prevents you from improving your game. It prevents you from finding out why you lose at chess''

    Luckily I will provide you with the real reason for why you lose at chess: you're not russian like I am.

     

    The book is ''why you lose at chess'' by Fred Reinfeld, a wonderful read, for any fellow russians that are interested. It deals with the psychology of playing chess.
     


     

     



  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    Estragon

    In OTB chess, repeated draw offers can be considered distracting the opponent, a violation which can be penalized by the arbiter. 

    It seems reasonable to limit the ability to offer a draw after one has been declined, say 5-10 moves must pass before the next. 

    There is never a reasonable excuse for offering a draw on successive moves.  It can only be done to distract, disturb, or mock the opponent, which should be as illegal online as in OTB games.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    bobbyDK

    Estragon wrote:

    In OTB chess, repeated draw offers can be considered distracting the opponent, a violation which can be penalized by the arbiter. 

    It seems reasonable to limit the ability to offer a draw after one has been declined, say 5-10 moves must pass before the next. 

    There is never a reasonable excuse for offering a draw on successive moves.  It can only be done to distract, disturb, or mock the opponent, which should be as illegal online as in OTB games.

    what if the position is a book draw and the opponent doesn't realize it like my example above, noone would say my claim for draw is unreasonable. if I offered draw on each move.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    EstebanTunggul

    Estragon wrote:

    In OTB chess, repeated draw offers can be considered distracting the opponent, a violation which can be penalized by the arbiter. 

    It seems reasonable to limit the ability to offer a draw after one has been declined, say 5-10 moves must pass before the next. 

    There is never a reasonable excuse for offering a draw on successive moves.  It can only be done to distract, disturb, or mock the opponent, which should be as illegal online as in OTB games.

    Thank you! 

    Why is online chess system not be made the same as real life?

     

    Helzeth, you are an idiot, and this is my thread. Please reply in a more civil manner, ok mi hijo? End of story.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #20

    Wrinn

    Lol, somebody crying about drawing a game and being distracted telling other people to grow up.  Hahaha, I love this site.  Shouldn't you kids be in school?  It's not summer yet.


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