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Sad case of high school chess cheating


  • 12 months ago · Quote · #281

    bangalore2

    The plus side of MonRoi and eNotate is that (I'm not sure about this capability in eNotate) they can transmit games live. Also, I go to some of Muradian's tournaments. He and some others have a rule that devices must be put on the table, and the opponent can ask to see it. I have witnessed a lot of sandbagging, but no cheating in OTB.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #282

    FirebrandX

    bangalore2 wrote:

     I have witnessed a lot of sandbagging, but no cheating in OTB.

    Sandbagging is a form of cheating.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #283

    bangalore2

    Good catch. I meant computer assisted cheating.

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #284

    greenfreeze

    is it hard to cheat in chess tournaments?

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #285

    btickler

    Stop bumping dead threads unless you have something significant to add...

  • 8 months ago · Quote · #286

    Jenium

    "By pushing all the right buttons on a good chess engine, any Kardashian sister could conceivably checkmate Fischer." 

    Is this guy kidding? Fischer would tear Houdini, Stockfish and Rybka to pieces in a blindfold simul. :-)

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #287

    nickchamp

    Jenium wrote:

    "By pushing all the right buttons on a good chess engine, any Kardashian sister could conceivably checkmate Fischer." 

    Is this guy kidding? Fischer would tear Houdini, Stockfish and Rybka to pieces in a blindfold simul. :-)

     

     

    YOU WISH. FISHER STUNK. HE JUST USED MIND TRICKS AND WAS INDIMIDATED. COMPUERS DON'T GET TRICKED BY FISHERS STRATEGIES.

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #288

    I_Am_Second

    I tried to cheat once, but i brought a toaster to a tournament, instead of a chess engine.

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #289

    StMichealD

    Why even alow electronics at the tournaments?

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #290

    PossibleOatmeal

    StMichealD wrote:

    Why even alow electronics at the tournaments?

    It's way easier for everyone.  At most tournaments I attend, the TDs prefer you notate electronically since it's so much easier for them.  For the player, it takes less than 2 seconds to notate a move and breaks your concentration way less than writing it down.  I'm happy either way, but I'd be fibbing if I said it wasn't a lot easier electronically and I didn't prefer it.

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #291

    Jenium

    nickchamp wrote:
    Jenium wrote:

    "By pushing all the right buttons on a good chess engine, any Kardashian sister could conceivably checkmate Fischer." 

    Is this guy kidding? Fischer would tear Houdini, Stockfish and Rybka to pieces in a blindfold simul. :-)

     

     

    YOU WISH. FISHER STUNK. HE JUST USED MIND TRICKS AND WAS INDIMIDATED. COMPUERS DON'T GET TRICKED BY FISHERS STRATEGIES.

    You're confusing things. You are talking about Kasparov, who got toasted by Deep Blue. Fischer had a flawless over-the-board attitude.

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #292

    greenfreeze

    can you tell how me how to cheat?

  • 5 months ago · Quote · #293

    DrSpudnik

    Knock the board over and put pieces on better squares.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #294

    greenfreeze

    if you want to learn how to cheat then you need to read this book:

    it was written by an english gm:

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #296

    PossibleOatmeal

    It is for some TDs at least.  Perhaps the difference is due to his never once needing to address the legality of the devices to anyone in my experience.  At the end of the day, he simply has pgns sitting in his email inbox instead of barely legible or illegible scoresheets riddled with errors.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #297

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    Jenium wrote:
    nickchamp wrote:
    Jenium wrote:

    "By pushing all the right buttons on a good chess engine, any Kardashian sister could conceivably checkmate Fischer." 

    Is this guy kidding? Fischer would tear Houdini, Stockfish and Rybka to pieces in a blindfold simul. :-)

     

     

    YOU WISH. FISHER STUNK. HE JUST USED MIND TRICKS AND WAS INDIMIDATED. COMPUERS DON'T GET TRICKED BY FISHERS STRATEGIES.

    You're confusing things. You are talking about Kasparov, who got toasted by Deep Blue. Fischer had a flawless over-the-board attitude.

    Deep Blue only won by one game and the match result was a genuine upset like Euwe defeating Alekhine for the title. 

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #298

    EarlPurple

    I don't know how sophisticated it would have to be but the obvious option at a serious tournament would be to have the electronic devices to enter the moves supplied at the table and not let the users bring their own.

    I am not a great player but a fair club player and have played tournament chess. I have subsequently analysed my own games. The usual pattern is that I will match the engine's best move much of the time but on occasion will play a move that is completely off the line - either missing a chance to win or giving my opponent a chance or losing an advantage I have gained.

    My opponent will most likely to the same.

    My last tournament game was 4 years ago and I won comfortably and felt I had played quite well. The analysis showed that, whilst I was never behind in the game and was in a winning position from a relatively early point (due to my opponent's errors) there were times in the game when I missed "clear" wins.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #299

    TaiKwanCheck

    TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
    Jenium wrote:
    nickchamp wrote:
    Jenium wrote:

    "By pushing all the right buttons on a good chess engine, any Kardashian sister could conceivably checkmate Fischer." 

    Is this guy kidding? Fischer would tear Houdini, Stockfish and Rybka to pieces in a blindfold simul. :-)

     

     

    YOU WISH. FISHER STUNK. HE JUST USED MIND TRICKS AND WAS INDIMIDATED. COMPUERS DON'T GET TRICKED BY FISHERS STRATEGIES.

    You're confusing things. You are talking about Kasparov, who got toasted by Deep Blue. Fischer had a flawless over-the-board attitude.

    Deep Blue only won by one game and the match result was a genuine upset like Euwe defeating Alekhine for the title. 

    Perhaps, but that was then, this is now. I'm not saying that Fischer and Kasparov weren't some of the greatest players ever. But there is no way Fischer or anyone else could beat even one of the computers jenium mentioned at their hardest level.


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