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Sore losers


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    bfcace

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  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    bfcace

    Its ok being patient but if the game is three days they make a move after nearly the three day period and then in another 3 days. So they should be told to resign. This is when they have lost of course.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    SmokeJS

    Your argument is a bit thin. Agreeing to play is similar to entering into a contract. Later on it's difficult to change the contract just because you don't like the way things are turning out. If the game agreed upon between you and your opponent is 3 days per move then you've got little choice but to either live up to that or end the game the only way you can which of course is to resign. That will end your misery but there is a cost. Ultimately your solution may be to simply only accept to play games where the time per move is faster.

    Concerning the comment about your opponents resigning lost games, it seems this isn't for you, or the administrators of this website, to decide. That's up to your opponents. That's how chess is played. In OTB chess played by good chess players they know when to resign because they know the skill level of the opponent and they know their opponent will not make mistakes that will lose the game. But at the level of chess played by those of us who are less skilled there's often a good chance our opponent will make an error that will allow fortunes to change. So fighting on until it's absolutely clear there's no way out is often a good choice when one wants to win the game. And even then expecting your opponent to be smart enough to force checkmate really isn't asking too much.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    bfcace

    Good points, but regardless if you are good enough or not there is sportsmanship of the game and common sense. Also the decency to resign.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    Vance917

    Sore losers seem to be less of a problem than sore winners.  After all, you have defeated the losers (by definition), right, so you settled the score.  But four times that I can recall (out of my thousands of games played here, so not huge as a proportion, but even once would be once too many) I had the experience of losing a game to someone who turned out to be very rude (four distinct rude individuals).  And I am afraid that I am now in the process of losing another such game.  This bothers me much more than anything somebody could say to me while I am winning the game.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    bfcace

    Sorry to hear that. What do you do with them bar them or just leave them alone and hope never to play them again? These annoying things, what to do just ignore them or ?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    Scarblac

    bfcace wrote:

    Sorry to hear that. What do you do with them bar them or just leave them alone and hope never to play them again? These annoying things, what to do just ignore them or ?


    Perhaps you should try to be less annoyed by them. People playing a game to the end, taking no more time than what they had agreed to take, that isn't the end of the world.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    bfcace

    True, its just the principle. I if i am going to lose always resign has i know how annoying it can be.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    Vance917

    I have never blocked anyone, although I did once consider it.  Being an optimist, I always like to believe that differences can be reconciled, and I never want to close the door on a possible reconciliation.  But of course it almost never happens, does it?  So yes, I just leave it alone.  Nothing else for me to do, right?  By the way, since posting this initial message of mine, I read the rest of the postings more carefully, and found that I was mistaken in what you were calling a sore loser.  In fact, so much so that I myself am a sore loser by your definition.  I have never said anything rude, but in that one game I have now with a jerk who is going to beat me, I am taking the full three days per move, just to protest this player's action.  Once I began doing this, I decided to do it also in other games against players who were not rude but still managed to annoy me by sandbagging (in a tournament of players under 1600, many of us who made it to the later rounds are now above 1600, myself included, so I do not wish to be hypocritical, but still, one does not expect to face a 2300 in such a tournament).

    I became so disgusted with the rude players, the sandbaggers, and, in some cases, my own stupid moves that resulted in losing games I had won that I essentially decided not to be in any huge rush to lose any game anymore, especially since the games I pissed away were lost precisely by my moving too fast.  So there you have it, the confession of a sore loser.  If I may rationalize my actions, then I will say that I was put up to this in part by the actions of others, and once these offensive games are past, I will revert back to playing at a normal pace.  I know, I know, I am still a jerk.  What can I say?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #10

    bfcace

    I fully understand your feelings. Your worse than me. You let them get to you and end up losing, so your even worse off. I had one on live chess who was very abusive and the first game i won and because i would not play a return game the air turned blue. And no you are not a jerk.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    TAGLARRY

    1.  There is no rule forcing a player to give up after he is behind in the game.  It is your job to checkmate him. 

     

    2.  Right now, there are 123,277 games being played on CHESS.COM.  Can you imagine how many moderators it would take to monitor these games?

     

    3.  You should only play one day per move games.  The games will move 3 times as fast.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    Vance917

    Thank you, I appreciate that.  There seem to be many here who would disagree with you, and not because of my lack of pace in making moves in games I will lose.  I am still puzzled how treating everyone with respect can result in making so many enemies, but that is exactly what I have done.  There is now a rumor circulating that I have betrayed my friends by posting our conversations, although nobody has told me where I allegedly posted them.  But you know the power of suggestion -- remember Salem, and Joe McCarthy.  The accusation alone was enough to cost me a few friends here.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #13

    Diabeditor

    I try to keep as many ongoing games as I can to avoid the waiting period. Every morning I go to work and log into this site, there's a few boards awaiting my move. If my opponents are on line, we might play a few more moves. If not, I start new games. If I have a winning position, I don't care how long it takes my opponent to move ... eventually the game is mine.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #14

    Queenie

    bfcace wrote:

    Why do people when creating games of less than 3 days let people have vacation. Also people who ars losing and have no chance winning do not resign and drag the game out for days. This winds me up. You should be able to report your game to the compiler who can look at it and decide there and then if a result is imminent or you are being messed about and a message is then sent saying resign or be removed from the club, or lose points or even worse be barred.


     Some people have to use their vaction time if they can't finish the game there and then for different reasons, and its not to wind you up or annoy you. I have to have chemotherapy, and some days I am too sick to play but that doesn't mean I want to lose all my play by resigning. So before you complain please think why some people do this.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #15

    Vance917

    Oh my goodness -- I hope you are OK.  Health comes first, of course, but I don't think that anyone had your case in mind when complaining about this.  I happen to agree with you, by the way, but still, I do not think that those who are upset by the delay would be upset in your case.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #16

    TAGLARRY

     Some people have to use their vaction time if they can't finish the game there and then for different reasons, and its not to wind you up or annoy you. I have to have chemotherapy, and some days I am too sick to play but that doesn't mean I want to lose all my play by resigning. So before you complain please think why some people do this.


    Sometimes we get so wound up in petty little problems we forget that people are dealing with much larger issues.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #17

    pappyboyington

    Maybe they have often sunny days... the forecast here is so bad and it is like this since the beginning of this month. We can only practice chess with that weather here but my opponents are certainly under blue sky and let me alone with the rainning time...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #18

    bfcace

    Queenie wrote: Queen
    bfcace wrote:

    Why do people when creating games of less than 3 days let people have vacation. Also people wqqho ars losing and have no chance winning do not resign and drag the game out for days. This winds me up. You should be able to report your game to the compiler who can look at it and decide there and then if a result is imminent or you are being messed about and a message is then sent saying resign or be removed from the club, or lose points or even worse be barred.


     Some people have to use their vaction time if they can't finish the game there and then for different reasons, and its not to wind you up or annoy you. I have to have chemotherapy, and some days I am too sick to play but that doesn't mean I want to lose all my play by resigning. So before you complain please think why some people do this.


     Queenie i know your situation and this is no where near any reflection on you or anything towards you in the least. This is for those who are losing and decide to drag the game out has long has possible. You never did any of what i said Thanks Ken

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #19

    pdmura

    bfcace wrote:

    Why do people when creating games of less than 3 days let people have vacation. Also people who ars losing and have no chance winning do not resign and drag the game out for days. This winds me up. You should be able to report your game to the compiler who can look at it and decide there and then if a result is imminent or you are being messed about and a message is then sent saying resign or be removed from the club, or lose points or even worse be barred.


    I think it has a lot to do with the level of chess you and your opponent play at.  For example, I had a game easily in hand and gave away my queen to a stupid blunder. 

    http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/do-you-have-a-quotblunder-storyquot-to-share

    At the level of chess I play, nothing is a sure thing.   Sometimes I wish my opponent would resign, but given my previous mistakes, I can not blame them for playing on.  Similarly, I have played games longer than I might have if I felt that my opponent was not particularly strong (perhaps I blundered earlier in the game to get to the current position) or if I thought I had a legitimate play for a draw).  My guess is that it is frustrating for some because turn-chess exaggerates the time spent finishing a game.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #20

    mattattack99

    I have a question: Why do peope keep posting threads on this topic?


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