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  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    EmperorPenguin

    Sometimes when I play Live Chess, I play well enough that my opponent is in no position to win.  Instead of resigning, some of them either leave the computer and let their time run out, making me sit and wait for the game to finish.  Some turn off their computers and the chat window states that they have disconnected.  One opponent had the nerve to write "Fck u azzwhole" in the window and let their time run out.

    Is there anything we can do about these twerps?

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    smileative

    block 'em - it easy Smile

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #3

    MontyII

    Just let them lose (by running their time out), and don't play them again. 

    In the case of abusive language, report the abuse.

    Other ideas?

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #4

    BigOto

    The moderators can track bad language. As MontyII said, you should report them for abuse if you feel you need to.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #5

    Last_Sire03

    MontyII wrote: Just let them lose (by running their time out), and don't play them again.  In the case of abusive language, report the abuse. Other ideas?yeah that's right

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #6

    RabbitCold

    I think MontyII has the best idea.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #7

    Macro80

    Ive found quite a few people will just disconnect.  Its pathetic.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #8

    Hermes3

    I wouldn't be so fast blaming the people disconnect. I got disconnected from the live chess server more than once. There are all kind of reasons for that, from user losing wireless strength to live chess server technical problems. I can understand why it would bother you if your opponent keeps you waiting thirty minutes till his time runs out, but why do you take disconnects too personal? When your opponent gets disconnected for any reason, server soon aborts that game anyway. 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #9

    padman

    Schachgeek wrote:

    yup report abuse, but remember one thing - there is NO WAY for staff to determine if an individual disconnect was intentional or due to some technical glitch. 

    Now if a particular player seems to disconnect a lot in lost positions that would be different, but just so you know - disconnects can happen at anytime. For me, it seemed to occur most often when I was winning and somehow I was blamed for abandoning a won game (and got scored with a loss). 


    You were not blamed for abandoning a won game. You got disconnected and that results in a forfeit if you don't get back in a certain time. That answers the "somehow".

    You keep on bringing it up again and again. Why? It's a random event and the fact that you were winning the game at the time has nothing to do with anything. The server does not have it in for you!

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #10

    EmperorPenguin

    Hermes3 wrote:

    I wouldn't be so fast blaming the people disconnect. I got disconnected from the live chess server more than once. There are all kind of reasons for that, from user losing wireless strength to live chess server technical problems. I can understand why it would bother you if your opponent keeps you waiting thirty minutes till his time runs out, but why do you take disconnects too personal? When your opponent gets disconnected for any reason, server soon aborts that game anyway. 

    When players disconnect at the moment when they realize they know they cannot win--when they know it, and you know it--a timely disconnection is unlikely an accident.  They just need to suck it up and resign.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #11

    TheGrobe

    Schachgeek wrote:

    yup report abuse, but remember one thing - there is NO WAY for staff to determine if an individual disconnect was intentional or due to some technical glitch. 

    ...


    Maybe not if they're physically pulling their network connection out, but if they're just closing the window or navigating away those events can absolutely be captured and logged by chess.com.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #12

    TheGrobe

    EmperorPenguin wrote:
    Hermes3 wrote:

    I wouldn't be so fast blaming the people disconnect. I got disconnected from the live chess server more than once. There are all kind of reasons for that, from user losing wireless strength to live chess server technical problems. I can understand why it would bother you if your opponent keeps you waiting thirty minutes till his time runs out, but why do you take disconnects too personal? When your opponent gets disconnected for any reason, server soon aborts that game anyway. 

    When players disconnect at the moment when they realize they know they cannot win--when they know it, and you know it--a timely disconnection is unlikely an accident.  They just need to suck it up and resign.


    How do you know at what moment they've realized their position is lost?  I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but you can't know really this and coincidences also occur. 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #13

    anagram_cyborg

    There are those players who go so far as to make you play out a completely won K + Q vs K endgame. I consider that bad sportsmanship as well.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #14

    TheGrobe

    I'm surprised it would be so much work but the point is that it could be done.  Your first post said there was "NO WAY".

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #15

    padman

    Schachgeek wrote:
    padman wrote:
    Schachgeek wrote:

    Think about it. Take snapshots as a game progresses, there will be instances where one side is winning, one side losing or maybe the position is drawish. Now add in random disconnects. You're always going to have someone who is losing, winning or drawing when that disconnect occurs.


    Sure, so if you mapped out the statistical distribution for random disconnects, you would find that (when the game isn't drawish) they're winning half the time and losing half the time. That's all good and well.

    But there are a plethora of dodgy types whose distribution is going to have a massive stack of disconnects when they're losing, on top of that random spread. They're defying the odds! That's the kind of behaviour that people are rightfully annoyed by, and you always seem to want to downplay the more than fair possibility that the disconnect is a vindictive act.

    I think you give people too much credit Tongue out

    If we added up all the snapshots as you say, there's absolutely no doubt that the player who is losing will be the more frequent disconnector. It is not going to be 50/50. You forgot to mention that we have to also include the source of the disconnect in the analysis, not just that there was one.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #16

    Atos

    If someone occasionally gets upset and lets the clock run down when they are losing, I'd say that is poor sportsmanship but hardly an offence that warrants reporting or banning. It is different with types who make it a 'strategy' to start long games and then let the clock run down.

    If you don't know the opponent personally, it is probably better not to accept very long time controls. Instead, use shorter base time with longer increments.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #17

    doodinthemood

    There is nothing we can, or really should do, about these folk, (apart from cases of abusive language). Of course, if you feel like being an annoying moron back to them, I always find a fun method of reversing the irritation is to offer a draw when they have 1 second left. Wink

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #18

    smileative

    when I know somebody playin' a bit unnatural, I suspects they is usin' an engine, an' I drags out the time in the hope that the staff will catch 'em - they is remarkably efficient in that regard Smile

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #19

    padman

    Schachgeek wrote:

    .... and that 100% of the games where I got disconnected I was either winning or the position was inconclusive. That's been my experience.


    I must be missing something because I don't understand the meaning or relevance of this?

    Are you telling us that you're an unlucky person? I'm sorry I don't get it.

    It must be significant because you've said the same thing several times in this and similar topics.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #20

    TheGrobe

    Only three things are certain in life:  Death, taxes and resignation threads.


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