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29th June 2008, 09:49am
#1
by lostapiece
tamworth,capital of mercia England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2298

i know there`s a time and a place, but thats not what im after here....

who relishes queen swaps , like a nice ciante........(well it said no mistakes ?!)


29th June 2008, 09:52am
#2
by CJBas
Alabama United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 107
If material is even or in my favor I'll swap queens in a heartbeat.
29th June 2008, 09:55am
#3
by sleisl
United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 39
If I'm up material I'd probably swap queens, and sometimes in friendly blitz games I'll swap them early before she even moves off her home square, just to get my opponant out of their "comfort zone" :P  Call it a psychological advantage... plus it forfeits their right to castle occasionally.
29th June 2008, 03:36pm
#4
by thespicekitten
Grimsby, UK England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 253
i have b4. stupid? possibly. bothered? nah!
29th June 2008, 03:41pm
#5
by littleman
Taree Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 957
It depends on the position for me. If i feel it helps my position or upsets theres to do so then i take queens off. Swapping queen for queen or queen for pieces of roughly equal values is particularly good against beginners and lower rated intetermediate players....Cool
29th June 2008, 07:38pm
#6
by checkmayte
comanche, okla. United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1573
If I am down and a swap will get me out of a spot...heck ya !   If I am up and it will increase my advantage, heck ya...But do I like giving up my queen, not really...!
29th June 2008, 07:49pm
#7
by exiledcanuck
Wellington New Zealand
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 280

I like relish.

 

Also there is something oddly satisfying about forcing the queen swap against someone who clearly over values their queen.

In high school I used to always offer queen trades early(ish) and often against people I hadn't played against before.  Most people would decline the trade and give me a tempo advantage. 


3rd July 2008, 05:34pm
#8
by justice_avocado
Taebaek-si, Gangwon-do South Korea
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 229

trading queens.

::sigh::

trading queens--at any point, and in any game--is delicious. it is butter in a baked potato, soaking the starch in creamy saltiness. it is grape halves in a light salad. it is a rasberry creme bombe in a delicate chocolate casing. it is a glass of exquisite wine after a long meal with friends. trading queens is the highest culinary flourish of the chess world.

any fool can play chess. but queen traders, ah! queen traders know how to live!


3rd July 2008, 05:53pm
#9
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2789

Okay, I absolutely have to share this story, you guys will probably find it just as priceless as I did at the time.

So my father taught me chess; he used to own a copy of Sargon on the computer, we had the Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess book on the shelf, so he was into it, but never super serious. Anyways, he always used to "beat me up" on the board, and I can't recalling him ever letting me win.

So this year, on Christmas day, I was over at his house in the evening, and he and I were drinking wine. I'd been hinting for a little while that he should consider himself challenged, as I'd been on chess.com for 5 months getting into the game. I'd left my board at home, so after borrowing a chess set from one of the neighbors (haha yes, "Knock knock. Hi, can we please borrow a chess set?), we sat down to play.

Now, it was looking pretty good that I was going to beat him, as he was super rusty whereas I was fresh. But there was a fear, or a pride in him that loathed the idea of getting beaten by his boy - but even more so I think he saw it as an opportunity to impress me - "See? Your old man still has it."

So we fired out the initial pawns. I was felling somewhat cocky - but then again, I never really knew if he was any good. I think he'd boasted about beating Sargon on some level, but neither of us had any clue of his rating.

Turns out he still remembered how to play attacking chess. His bihops and knights were hurling themselves across the board at me and I found myself completely on the defensive. "That's okay," I thought to myself, "Be calm. Let him overextend his pieces. He'll slip up."

It was his Queen that was the distinct menace, I think he captured my g2 pawn, and got her right into my back territory.

But his attack was unrelenting. "Alright then," I reasoned, "Time to trade down. Maybe he still remembers how to launch an attack, but if I swap off, maybe his endgame will prove to be rusty."

So I lined our Queens up. He did something else, and then I moved in for the trade, which is when it happened.

Perhaps sensing what I was up to, my old man tried the most hilarious argument. Brandishing his wine glass, he began angrily admonishing me for giving up my women, letting my girl go down, stating it as an absolute code of the honor of the Old Chess Players that "No Man Would Ever Let His Queen Die!"

Hahaha, it was so priceless. Mr. Bischoff, all vehement, me, with a look of utter dismay. I almost was like "Dad, we're going to log onto chess.com and settle this once and for all! With a thread!"

He eventually relented and allowed me to trade, but I felt ashamed as I did so. 

 


3rd July 2008, 06:19pm
#10
by DeepGreene
Vancouver Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 250

....  Did you win??

As for Queen-swapping (which makes it sound naughty), I'll often do it early just to prevent my opponent from castling (i.e. in situations where my opponent hasn't moved his royalty yet).


3rd July 2008, 06:53pm
#11
by Rael
Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2789

He did.

Then I won the next two. Hehe. 


3rd July 2008, 08:51pm
#12
by justice_avocado
Taebaek-si, Gangwon-do South Korea
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 229

whoa. swapping queens with daddy.

naughty indeed.


3rd July 2008, 09:00pm
#13
by AnthonyCG
Washington DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 452
I don't really do it unless I'm getting something out of it. Sometimes it's a bad idea for me to trade queens because I play sharp openings like the Danish.
3rd July 2008, 09:01pm
#14
by CJBas
Alabama United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 107
Rael, that's priceless.  Makes it almost sound incestuous.
3rd July 2008, 09:02pm
#15
by Chiaro2di2luna
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 173
I'm known for trading queens amoung my chess-playing friends, but it depends if i think i gain an advantage from swapping.
4th July 2008, 02:24pm
#16
by lostapiece
tamworth,capital of mercia England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2298
lol cheers people ! my sides are splitting ha ha !
4th July 2008, 02:57pm
#17
by Tamer
Oregon United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 282
I swap out more often than I don't..They usually have a suprise in store for you otherwise in my experience.
 

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