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DavyWilliams
I'm trying to develop a defense against white's e4 opening and have been trying the Sicilian Defense with c5. I got on the game explorer and varied my opening based on what it said were good lines with it. Here's what came:
e4 c5
Kc3 a6 What? What's the logic in this?
then kf3 b5 Again, what? the explorer says black has a big advantage at this point. How?
then b3 e6. I'm not getting it. All pawn defense? no knights or bishops developed. What's going on here? Anyone ever used this?
Thanks for any help.
Oops, i meant Nc3 and Nf3 instead of using the K.
ndornfe2
The game explorer is based off of results, it doesn't say anything about how good or bad a line actually is.
IM pfren
1.e4 c5
2.Nc3 a6
Black wants to play some Najdorf or Can sicilian, and does not want to enter a theoretical variation like, say, a typical Grand Prix attack, or the 2...Nc6 3.Bb5 variation.
3.Nf3 b5
Black doesn't mind entering a slightly risky Can variation, or he wants to play the adventurous 4.d4 b4.
After 4.b3?! he is convinced that white just has no clue about what he's wanting to do, and plays a move (although 4...e6 is a fairly good one).
At your rating, I'd forget about the Sicilian as Black, and reconsider it after gaining some experience and 600 rating points, at least.
BenSprocket
Davy,
Have a look at lines that stem from: 1.e4 c5 2.c3
If Black is inexperienced, White can gain some strong centres from this. I recommend Gary Lane's DVD, 'Foxy Openings, The Sicilian c3'.
And the good old 'Morra Gambit' is always worth knowing. Old fashioned some say but can be great at sub 1500 level.
BenSprocket, the OP is interested playing the Sicilian as Black - in case you didn't notice.
Thanks Pfren, but what IS he wanting to do, after b3?
THEN does black bring out his knights?
At this point, black will crush opponent, unless white plays d4. (again, according to the explorer and everything being equal)
So if you would please, Pfren, what DOES black have in mind?
Thanks Ben, will look at those. But yes, playing as black. (i think my ggggggg grandfather came from Wales. ;-) )
Looks like that Morra Gambit will be a good one to learn. Then i found the Siberian version. So much to learn.
Black wants to gain space on the queenside, bring his bishop on the good b7 square, deny the d5 square to white's knight by ...e6 and slowly prepare castling (which is not such an urgent thing to do...) and all that.
The b8 knight might go to c6, but d7 is also an option. The other knight can be deployed "naturally" to f6, but Ne7-g6 is another option- depending on white's play.
If you expect crushing white with the Sicilian after half a dozen of moves where he has played aimlessly but did not blunder something, then you are after the wrong opening. The Sicilian needs patience, awareness of quite a few positional factors, and effective endgame technique. Do you posess these elements, or not yet?
Thanks again, Pfren, for the explanation. So Qb6 might be in order and the best place for the Q?
Not looking for a crushing defense, just a good relatively unknown defense at my level. Heh, working on all those elements. When i reach your level, in the next life, we'll play a game. Thanks again.
No, the queen usually goes to c7 where he keeps an eye to the e5 square. On b6 he might be harrased with tempo by a bishop on e3.
At your level I would play 1...e5, without bothering if it is "known" or not. I still play 1...e5 myself most of the times after some 40 years of competitive chess.
VivaChe
Yeah me too, I stick as black to e4-e5 or d4-d5 because they are easier to understand and they are pretty solid.
I am just starting to learn the Sicilian and French they are more complicated imo and you have to work with a different mindset with them.
Yeah, e5. Makes sense. Who said, Morphy perhaps, put your king or queen's pawn out there in the middle at first. Hard to beat this opening move. Now Pfren and Viva have said it too. Efharisto and Danke guys.
mikenz7
Davy - the Sicilian is the most complicated opening you can try! It offers lots of chances, but also needs lots of study of the different lines.
Oh, okay. I had a 2050 player tell me it was easy and not complicated - maybe he forgot, as he's getting long int he tooth.
manoocena
If you notice Pfren is taking about the Ideas behind an opening. Those are more important than memorizing lines. I have been playing Sicilian for a while myself, it has very rich possibilities at the same time it's rather complex and has to be played precisely.
At the same time other defenses that lead to Ruy Lopez 4 knight variation are considerably easier and less chances of making mistakes. If you still want to learn sicilian I recommend the French variation, I think the ideas behind it are relatively easier than other variations. Hope it helps :D
Thanks Man, i'll look at the French version too.
That Ruy Lopez is what i started out with but thought everyone was familiar with it, so was looking elsewhere.
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