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I realized when I don't have a dialogue with myself in chess, I play retarded chess. Any idea why this is ? Talking to myself during chess seem to do something to my performance....
It's probably just psychological, I see no connection, but you really can't talk to yourself during OTB, you'll distract your opponent and they'll most likely complain.
What I mean by talking to myself is having a mental dialogue with myself...
Oh, then, if it doesn't distract you, ramble on with your mind conversations!
I mean, is that something everyone does? or am I going crazy?
Like I said, it seems to be purely psychological, as I have never known anyone who has mental dialouges (other than me, but they don't distract me! )
And please don't think you're going crazy.
not sure what the last two replies are supposed to imply.
I have to disagree this is just psychological talking and spelling the he out to yourself is a brilliant technique it'll as long as your studying right and at depth it will give you a stronger understanding of your own game and position as ling as your also talking if your opponents plans and moves um a great believer themes more than chess going on rates a connection in live chess orb rats happening not just psychological pRefare its hard to explain without sounding mental but keep it up if its developing your game and helps you concentrate then do it more
I am (and I enjoyed it immensely).
i think having concious conversation with yourself is good. Im not really the most focused person so whenever I play OTB I always ask myself questions to kinda draw a mindmap of the positions.Anyway, even i you are going insane you will find plenty of company among chess players lol
Talking to yourself is just fine.
ps. Watch out when yourself starts talking back.
Hard to say without knowing what the dialogue entails. You mean things like "Why did my opponent make that move?" or "Where do I want my knight to end up?" or "is my move safe?" or "what did his move threaten"
If it's like this, it's probably because it helps you organize and focus your thoughts. I think it boils down to attempting to analyse without bias, and in a consistent way.
It's a great topic IMO. I think it touches on the questions of how do people learn or organize knowledge? You hear funny bits of advice from very strong players like "talk to your pieces." What knowledge about the way they play are they trying to communicate? What does their phrasing mean about their personal conceptualization of basic concepts we all use? Fun stuff.
"Talk to your pieces"? Wow.
yes wafflemaster, that's the whole purpose of this thread. I'm just beginning to understand this amazing analytical power we develop from playing chess. That's why I'm kind of confused since I never applied dialogue thinking in other areas of my life before and it has proven to be an effective tool in chess. so this is why masters recommend books since you're digesting actually dialogue/sentences from those books and incorporating them in your mental dialogue. I'm guessing that's what they meant all along. And also in tactics when you get to practice thinking through them with words. I was told to always explain in one sentence of the tactical motif that I saw, to show that my understanding.
I am frankly leery of such advice/notions. The probability is that you will just be attempting to sound impressive without really getting a grasp of things (I know this well from experience).
I'm leery of my own advice too, but I don't think it really hurts to try. I guess whether it's effective or not depends on the person who applies it. I'm just starting to play chess, so I need to try every thing.
is this a spinoff from Haywood's things ?
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