The Death of cheater_1

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1st January 2009, 10:51am
#61
by Kingfisher
Johannesburg South Africa
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1697

Don't make me call the Ministry of Bitch Slapping!

1st January 2009, 10:54am
#62
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23167

This is silly.

1st January 2009, 11:05am
#63
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605
Kingfisher wrote:

Don't make me call the Ministry of Bitch Slapping!


If the Minibitchslap, as it would be called in Newspeak, goes along with the principles of doublethink, as the rest of the ministries do, it would do everything except bitch slapping.

1st January 2009, 11:07am
#64
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605
rich wrote:

This is silly.


How profound! I predict that you will be quoted by philosophers for many years to come. Tongue out

1st January 2009, 11:12am
#65
by Grand_Chill
Galtego Bay Jamaica
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 252

May cheater_1's account rest in peace...

1st January 2009, 11:54am
#66
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23167

This topic is irrelevant, I am no longer tracking this.

1st January 2009, 12:21pm
#67
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

Well actually no one knows you but ok.Wink

1st January 2009, 01:31pm
#68
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605
rich wrote:

This topic is irrelevant, I am no longer tracking this.


That's probably a good thing. It has gone off subject, and is now a home for argument. Anyone fancy a debate?

1st January 2009, 01:36pm
#69
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

Me!!! but I think I am too late.

1st January 2009, 01:43pm
#70
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605

No, you are not too late. What subject do you wish to argue?

1st January 2009, 01:45pm
#71
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

How about Philosophy? I am not sure if we can though...

1st January 2009, 01:45pm
#72
by victhestick
Batavia, IL United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1706

Here is a debate I always wanted to have:

     What is more important, air or water?

1st January 2009, 01:49pm
#73
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

Water there is more of it.

1st January 2009, 01:50pm
#74
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

Their is more of it but they are both important.

1st January 2009, 01:55pm
#75
by onewho_dies
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 477

I know of a story where a guy who was dying of thirst and thought about what he would feel if he was suffocating. This guy (lets call him Jim) heard that the pursuit of air was more desparate than water. However Jim found that to be false. His reasoning was that someone may be more desparate for air but when dehydrated they had to wait much longer than a few seconds to die.

(Please forgive any spelling errors)

1st January 2009, 02:10pm
#76
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4074

Air.  I drink Gatorade.

1st January 2009, 02:12pm
#77
by Me10167
York United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 38

Lets boycot this.

1st January 2009, 02:13pm
#78
by kid_of_chess
Ottawa,Ontario Canada
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5817
ADK wrote:

He MIGHT return in a different account...

OR this whole thing was a publicity stunt to see how we would handle it.

ADK


he has returned! cheater_37

1st January 2009, 03:20pm
#79
by BasicLvrCH8r
Kansas United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1605
Me10167 wrote:

Lets boycot this.


Why?

My question is: under what parameters is one more important? Living is not technically necessary.

2nd January 2009, 12:03am
#80
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 10139

here's the quick of it:

after boasting to no end about being "unmateable" and unbeatable yada yada i gave cheater_1 a chance to prove it - to play a game against all of chess.com. he was giddy like a little girl and thanked me over and over for this opportunity (he loves attention). i thought it was amusing and would be an interesting game for chess.com.

for those of you who followed the game it was a very interesting game. it was dynamic, unbalanced, and enjoyable. then suddenly cheater_1 made a mistake. it was a subtle mistake, but a deadly one that quickly gave him a losing position in what was likely a draw.

after the game he admitted the loss and blamed it on his chess computer that he calls cannibal37 (though i still doubt he had a custom chess engine). in several places he admitted to losing the game and had plenty of excuses, but owned up to it like a man. 

then, a few days ago he comes back and tries to rewrite history by again claiming he has never lost. he also deleted his forum post where he publicly admitted to his loss. this really, really irritated me since i went out of my way to give him the attention he craved and setup a match which he lost fair and square. i considered this a serious insult. so i sent him a message and told him to recant or i would do what many many people have asked me to do - close his account. 

frankly, i didn't expect him to close his account. i was sad to see him do that. i was pretty sure he would just own up to it, or maybe start up a controversial post about how i was bullying him and then the evidence would come out and he would (once again) look like a liar and an idiot. but nope - he went stubborn and did the unexpected - closing his own account. i hadn't even considered this as a option since he is so amazingly self-interested and attention-seeking.

he cut off his nose to spite his own face. a weird decision and not what i would have chosen. but i was tired of having him insult me and all of the players of the first vote chess game with him.

i'll miss cheater_1 a little. he certainly had his followers and did do a good job stirring up some people with brash and wild posts. but i also had to put up with a lot of upset people who demanded i close his account, etc. it was weird to be sticking up for the guy to people who would ask about it. but i did... until he crossed the line.

i wouldn't close someone's account on chess.com just for fun or kicks. i'm not a mean censorship-hungry jerk. the only time i (or chess.com) close accounts is when people break the site rules (cheating, offending, mutliple accounts, etc). cheater_1 broke a special rule that we agreed to when we started the vote chess game - that he would accept the outcome.

tonight when i logged in and saw his account closed i re-opened it but made it inaccessible so that his posts and commentary would live on as an interesting part of chess.com history.

anyway, that's the full story. i'm happy to answer any other questions :)


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