also, the "cheater_37" account is not him. it was another member of chess.com faking it. i closed the account and warned that member.
And here is Cheater vs everyone game...LOL
http://www.chess.com/votechess/game.html?id=6588434
click on the PUBLIC COMMENTS and you will see that cheater_1 wrote this:
"
Congratulations team chess.com...you've won!
I am RESIGNING.
I have lost.
My world is collapsing around me.
My programs failed me.
My own judgement failed me.
Everything has failed me.
I need time to recover...to recoup and assess my losses.
This is UNPRECEDENTED. They say that the first loss is the hardest one to take.
I am going into hiding. I'm not sure when or if I'll return.
Goodbye. Goodluck. Goodgame. Goodnight.
proof enough?
I've come across cheater_1 before, nothing special just an attention seeker with multiple aliases. Havent heard from him for a while which is a good thing. I for one will not be missing him
I wasn't doubting you Erik. lol
Just posting that for all to see. Despite this conflict, it was an interesting game. :)
here's the quick of it:
after boasting to no end about being "unmateable" and unbeatable yada yada i gave cheater_1 a chance to prove it - to play a game against all of chess.com. he was giddy like a little girl and thanked me over and over for this opportunity (he loves attention). i thought it was amusing and would be an interesting game for chess.com.
for those of you who followed the game it was a very interesting game. it was dynamic, unbalanced, and enjoyable. then suddenly cheater_1 made a mistake. it was a subtle mistake, but a deadly one that quickly gave him a losing position in what was likely a draw.
after the game he admitted the loss and blamed it on his chess computer that he calls cannibal37 (though i still doubt he had a custom chess engine). in several places he admitted to losing the game and had plenty of excuses, but owned up to it like a man.
then, a few days ago he comes back and tries to rewrite history by again claiming he has never lost. he also deleted his forum post where he publicly admitted to his loss. this really, really irritated me since i went out of my way to give him the attention he craved and setup a match which he lost fair and square. i considered this a serious insult. so i sent him a message and told him to recant or i would do what many many people have asked me to do - close his account.
frankly, i didn't expect him to close his account. i was sad to see him do that. i was pretty sure he would just own up to it, or maybe start up a controversial post about how i was bullying him and then the evidence would come out and he would (once again) look like a liar and an idiot. but nope - he went stubborn and did the unexpected - closing his own account. i hadn't even considered this as a option since he is so amazingly self-interested and attention-seeking.
he cut off his nose to spite his own face. a weird decision and not what i would have chosen. but i was tired of having him insult me and all of the players of the first vote chess game with him.
i'll miss cheater_1 a little. he certainly had his followers and did do a good job stirring up some people with brash and wild posts. but i also had to put up with a lot of upset people who demanded i close his account, etc. it was weird to be sticking up for the guy to people who would ask about it. but i did... until he crossed the line.
i wouldn't close someone's account on chess.com just for fun or kicks. i'm not a mean censorship-hungry jerk. the only time i (or chess.com) close accounts is when people break the site rules (cheating, offending, mutliple accounts, etc). cheater_1 broke a special rule that we agreed to when we started the vote chess game - that he would accept the outcome.
tonight when i logged in and saw his account closed i re-opened it but made it inaccessible so that his posts and commentary would live on as an interesting part of chess.com history.
anyway, that's the full story. i'm happy to answer any other questions :)
I forgive you. You did not do anything wrong.
"Cutting off his own nose to spite his own face." Yep, that sounds like something cheater_1 would do.
"frankly, i didn't expect him to close his account. i was sad to see him do that. i was pretty sure he would just own up to it, or maybe start up a controversial post about how i was bullying him and then the evidence would come out and he would (once again) look like a liar and an idiot. but nope - he went stubborn and did the unexpected - closing his own account. i hadn't even considered this as a option since he is so amazingly self-interested and attention-seeking."
If this is all true, I wonder why he closed his account. His reasoning was that he was being forced. It seems very odd.
"tonight when i logged in and saw his account closed i re-opened it but made it inaccessible so that his posts and commentary would live on as an interesting part of chess.com history."
That is very kind of you. Thank you.
Here is a debate I always wanted to have:
What is more important, air or water?
It depends on one's goal. It one's goal is to live for the longest amount of time possible, then air is more important. If one's goal is a quick and painless death, then water is more necessary. Nothing is important or necessary without parameters.
We are here to play chess people!!!
If you want to get wrapped up in drama tune into a soap opera or join a site that caters to such things. Otherwise, go make a move in one of your games and quit clogging the forums with this nonsense.
I am the new cheater_1 - c_heater1 - I will continue what cheater_1 has started, or at least attempt to, however, I might grow very bored and stop. But that does not matter now! All know c_heater1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion you are cheater_1 resurfacing again.
The first time you did a day ago, representing youself as a native or person living in Bermuda, you made the mistake of calling yourself cheater_10, and I have lifted your masqued face, you are now disguised again.
You made a day ago the mistake of saying that you will revive cheater_1's memory and pursue his matters. In summary since you had only joined the site for a day and since that all of the posts from cheater-1 were erased, the conclusion was extremely simple, you were cheater_1 reappearing under a new alias.
Unfornately, right after I replied to your previous cheater_1 impersonation under cheater_10, Erik erased the post again so I cannot show it. Perhaps Erik would consider showing this post locked for all viewers to see.
Must be some kind of as stressfull event for Erik to track, illico, and remove all traces of a new virus. The cheater_1 mutations are of a prime order for chess.com and any suspicious new character enrolling, not that I disagree as I am the one that unmasked Zorro, the cheater_1, thus has become the prime target, letting all other elements of development on the way side, besides restoring the site access.
My suggestion to Erik, is to let any new comer express herself/ himself and go from there on. No need to panic or to overreact, this trait of character, to be able to judge accurately an event and come up with the proper response, comes only with years of experience to be able to properly control and is definetely not a trait of a 30 year old person, no offense to you.
Sorry but I lived this Erik and you will understand in 15 years down the road. One needs to put a lot of things aside besides conviction, determination, domination, control, ego and being too reactive, the latter a common attribute of the sanguine type.
I think Erik that you fit best the sanguine type, you know in the 60's we learned things that aren't even mentionned in today's teaching, about people's dominant personality.
Now no one is a perfect model to any characterisation of the personality, but we all have dominant traits of character that classifies us in a predominant category, meaning that our action are mostly governed by our dominant type most if the time, not always however, and there is nothing wrong about belonging to any category except perhaps...
I know what I am talking about when I say it takes years of experience to be able not to shoot from the hip or at clay pidgeons, as I have been a manager since the age of 25 for a period of 35 years , and wisdom comes from years of experience and not expleditive solution.
Going back to your personality type, and certainly I can be wrong as I have never met you but only have seen some and a fraction only of your actions or reactions.
So here I go with my psychoanalysis of your character, right or wrong, this is what I read:
1. You are a primary person, as opposed to secondary a person that always takes a step back to analyse, which defines a person that acts on the moment, not needing lot's of thinking as you are smart and think that you will prevail with with your words having a witty mind. Not necessaraly true by the way.
2. You are emotive, you are a sentimental person and do care for other people and can really be affected by a death or a surprise party, your heart is pounding and you almost can have tears and at times you do.
3. You are active, as opposed to inactive like a couch potato, a person that will always take the lead.
In summary you are one of the best entrepeneur personality type, with a lot of energy and ideas.
But never forget the wisdom, from the Greek word, "sophia", this is what we named our daughter after, just at times let the water run down your back or feathers as ducks do!
And do give yourself a reflexion period to sort out the chaff.
Maybe some words of wisdom for the future?
No comprendo nada!
From the encarta to all of us.
Plato
V.
Political Theory
The Republic, Plato’s major political work, is concerned with the question of justice and therefore with the questions “what is a just state” and “who is a just individual?”
The ideal state, according to Plato, is composed of three classes. The economic structure of the state is maintained by the merchant class. Security needs are met by the military class, and political leadership is provided by the philosopher-kings. A particular person’s class is determined by an educational process that begins at birth and proceeds until that person has reached the maximum level of education compatible with interest and ability. Those who complete the entire educational process become philosopher-kings. They are the ones whose minds have been so developed that they are able to grasp the Forms and, therefore, to make the wisest decisions. Indeed, Plato’s ideal educational system is primarily structured so as to produce philosopher-kings.
Plato associates the traditional Greek virtues with the class structure of the ideal state. Temperance is the unique virtue of the artisan class; courage is the virtue peculiar to the military class; and wisdom characterizes the rulers. Justice, the fourth virtue, characterizes society as a whole. The just state is one in which each class performs its own function well without infringing on the activities of the other classes.
Plato divides the human soul into three parts: the rational part, the will, and the appetites. The just person is the one in whom the rational element, supported by the will, controls the appetites. An obvious analogy exists here with the threefold class structure of the state, in which the enlightened philosopher-kings, supported by the soldiers, govern the rest of society.
cheater-1...cm'on...!READ CAREFULLY THIS MESSAGE::: you still at this site...i know who you are...i know very well who you are...your actual name & you still playing...hmmm...! all over this site i'll following you & i'll never stop till all members will know who you are....VAMPIRES;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
SHOW YOUR SELF NOW...YOU ARE ON LINE...I SAW YOUR ACCOUNT:
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
YOU LOGOUT NOW...!hmmmm...!SO I'M WAITING TILL YOU LOGIN...prove yourself...you are cheating us...? NO...NO AT ALL...WE ARE WAITING & TAKE CARE FROM THIS WORD ( WE )
que................que......................que?
¿Por qué preguntas "qué"? Es fácil entender que dice.
More chess, less talk....
Wow, some quality chess talk in these topics...
Ok, I am completely new to this site and should probably go off into the corner and be quite, but the curiosity is killing me... what is going on here, who is this cheater guy, who is erik, why is cheater dead, what is the vote game, should I care?
Just curious,Have a wonderful day :)
Just go and have another coffee , nothing here for you to worry about except remember erik is the creator/boss of this wonderful website. Have a nice day btw welcome to chess.com.
Sounds good to me!
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