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  • 11 months ago · Quote · #21

    iksarol

    you might think the moon is made of chesse but still he use them , im not here to help you use google , read about it , see what the drugs he use as medication do, see if they are ban today and why then you replay.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #22

    batgirl

    iksarol wrote:

    you might think the moon is made of chesse but still he use them , im not here to help you use google , read about it , see what the drugs he use as medication do, see if they are ban today and why then you replay.

    As scandium said, "cite a single source." Otherwise your talk is dust in the wind.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #23

    iksarol

    look it up , period.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #24

    Kruptnick

    I looked it up on Google like you said and found nothing, using keywords like "drugs", "medication" or "treatment" + Bobby Fischer. Never read about him taking such drugs during in career in books or heard about it anywhere else; it probably would have been played on a lot by the medias if he did.

    The only thing near what you said is a "what if", talking about what would have happened had he been a 21st century boy: http://www.psmag.com/culture/a-psychological-autopsy-of-bobby-fischer-25959/

    Still, the original topic is more interesting and makes me hopeful for my progress :)

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #25

    iksarol

    you are right , the games are awsome , i just like people to play without drugs m even if they have a serious mental illnes.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #26

    qixel

    Well, if we take an uncritical acceptance of a googled Internet as our source of information on any topic, then we are in deep trouble.  

    But let's say (shudder) we do--for the sake of argument.  Then certainly the preponderance of the "evidence" indicates quite the opposite:  Fischer did not take performance enhancing drugs.

    On the other hand, in the book Bobby Fischer Goes to War, the authors write:

    Fischer was no instant prodigy. Clearly talented, with a deep intuitive grasp of the game, he performed well in club games and tournaments, though not spectacularly. It was not until 1954, at the age of eleven, that Fischer, in his own words, “just got good”.

    Bobby's much repeated expression does seem to indicate that, for him at least, there was a rather sudden chess "breakthrough".

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #27

    netzach

    Believe Fischer did take a lot of stuff but understood this was mainly after becoming WCC & when mental-illness was causing him to suffer badly from paranoia. They may not have been '' drugs '' as such more like quack-cures & medicines.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/12/bobby-fischer-rsquo-s-pathetic-endgame/2634/

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #28

    SPARTANEMESIS

    iksarol wrote:

    look it up , period.

    LOL!  It's great when someone makes a claim without a source, and then says: "look it up , period." 

    iksarol, you said it, you can look it up and inform what you found.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #29

    batgirl

    qixel wrote:

    Well, if we take an uncritical acceptance of a googled Internet as our source of information on any topic, then we are in deep trouble.  

    Precisely.  And if we accept facts on the basis of someone's totally unsupported statements, we're in even deeper trouble than one would think possible.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #30

    joesdaking

    Anyways, he clearly has no real, concrete proof of his claims that Bobby Fischer used performance enhancing drugs to help in concentrate. In fact, one of his teachers said they were surprised Bobby could play chess for 4 hours as he was always fidgeting and never sitting still in class.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #31

    checkevrytim

    This definitely happens to me. Not just in chess, but everything. I will be about the same level for a few days, weeks, months, or years. Then suddenly it all clicks. That's why just being exposed to new ideas and working on them consistently is important. It is all building up to something even if we don't see the results immediately.

     

    I also believe that some people have more "linear" learning styles, and some are less linear.  Some people will slowly make incremental improvements over a long period, and some people have more of these moments where they get much better all at once.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #33

    gattaca

    iksarol wrote:

    look it up , period.

    Oh my, now that's an argument!

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #34

    TheGrobe

    The Internet is a 100% reliable source. Look it up.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #35

    uhohspaghettio

    Maybe it's the Mexican drug organizations' version of advertizing their product...

    (probably this line is a bad joke, but you can't ever really tell when you come up with something yourself). 

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #36

    Conquistador

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #37

    Estragon

    pfren wrote:

    iksarol, it's apparent that you are high on something really nasty.

    No, it seems he's into the really good stuff!  Surprised

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #38

    Estragon

    I do believe that progress in chess understanding can occur in "spurts" or significant steps.  That's how most of my progress happened, after the very early days when improvement did seem to be, for a time, a steady upward line.  Seemingly all of a sudden I just "got" an aspect of the game, and my playing strength would go up a notch. 

    But in between "spurts" were usually flat lines, often frustrating, and a couple of times even a slight decline in results for a period.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #39

    SPARTANEMESIS

    TheGrobe wrote:

    The Internet is a 100% reliable source. Look it up.

    Yeah, I also like the: "It's on the wikipedia, so it must be true," argument.


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