The rarest move in chess ?

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22nd July 2009, 08:37pm
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by idosheepallnight
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What is the rarest move in chess. I think it might be promoting to a rook. I just recently did exactly that so I wouldnt stalemate my opponent. But how often would that ever happen ?


Any move you can think of that is rarer ?

22nd July 2009, 08:56pm
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by oinquarki
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axc4 is very rare. So is Nv15.

23rd July 2009, 11:44am
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by jboden
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I like that. 0-0-0# !!

23rd July 2009, 11:52am
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by TheGrobe
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Na1xc2# this requires three Knights of the same colour to be on the board, one on a1, another on a3 and a third on c1.  I threw in the capture and checkmate for good measure.

23rd July 2009, 12:18pm
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by AMcHarg
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jboden wrote:

I like that. 0-0-0# !!


Well this one is forced from the Queen sac and is slightly varied from a game between Lasker and Thomas, enjoy! Cool

23rd July 2009, 12:21pm
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by TheGrobe
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Love that game -- my only dissapointment is that O-O-O# wasn't played.

23rd July 2009, 12:26pm
#7
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
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I once had a game which ended with me (black) castling and white resigned.

As for the most rare move, excluding some situations like TheGrobe's example in post 6, and limiting ourselves to "categories" of moves, how about these:

 

  1. Discovered checkmate where the rook moves
  2. Underpromotion checkmate
  3. en passant checkmate
  4. underpromotion followed by resignation
  5. (not so rare, but fun) Checkmate in the middle of the board. (e4/d4/e5/d5)
This is a fun thread, what are some other ideas?
23rd July 2009, 12:28pm
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by TheGrobe
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En passant resulting in discovered checkmate.

23rd July 2009, 12:30pm
#9
by TheGrobe
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A smothered mate in the middle of the board also has to be exceedingly rare.

23rd July 2009, 12:40pm
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by TheGrobe
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A seven-way fork is also possible, but likely quite rare.

23rd July 2009, 12:42pm
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by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
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TheGrobe wrote:

En passant resulting in discovered checkmate.


I would think this is more common than en passant resulting in non-discovered checkmate.

23rd July 2009, 12:44pm
#12
by TheGrobe
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Possibly -- particularly when the pawn push that enables en passant is the only defense to checkmate on the previous move.

23rd July 2009, 12:45pm
#13
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
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Zugzwang helpmate

!

23rd July 2009, 12:47pm
#14
by TheGrobe
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Discovered double check (I can't think of any way for this to occur except via en passant).

23rd July 2009, 01:03pm
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by TheGrobe
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How about forced underpromotion to avoid a stalemate?

23rd July 2009, 01:09pm
#16
by BFM
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I think the rarest move ever was the castling at Tim Krabbé's problem in 1972.

See this thread: http://www.chess.com/forum/view/more-puzzles/joke-chess-problem?lc=1

This was a loophole in the castling rules at that date.

23rd July 2009, 01:11pm
#17
by sstteevveenn
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hmm, of all the underpromotions I think underpromotion to a bishop is easily the most contrived and it's probably never happened as the best move in a serious game. 

23rd July 2009, 01:16pm
#18
by TheGrobe
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I believe that there are scenarios where under-promotion to Bishop is necessary to avoid a stalemate, but it certainly qualifies as being extremely rare.

23rd July 2009, 01:19pm
#19
by sstteevveenn
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yes, there are positions where underpromoting to bishop is the best move, but they are very contrived indeed.  I've not seen a single game where it has been required. 

23rd July 2009, 01:53pm
#20
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
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TheGrobe wrote:

Discovered double check (I can't think of any way for this to occur except via en passant).


Discovered double check - isn't this most often achieved via a knight discovering a rook?

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