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22nd July 2008, 09:30am
#21
by mysticalfairymagic
Texas United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 871

forgive me, but I'm one of these people who do not resign. The reason being is that I'm not a person who likes to back away from something even if I'm on the losing end. I also like to see just how long I can stay alive... I do not mean to annoy the other person, nor any of these other reasons you've brought up. and most the times there is a conversation going on in the chat box that I know will be gone when I lose, so it saves the conversation for awhile. I know I'm a weak player, which I try to warn my opponent before hand.


22nd July 2008, 09:38am
#22
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3693

Please change "refuse to resign" to "continue to play on", otherwise it sounds like you are asking or expecting him to resign.


22nd July 2008, 09:59am
#23
by Head_Hunter
East Orange, NJ United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 389

You know, I've been on both sides of this fence. On the one hand, I've been in situations where I had an apparent advantage and lost the game. I've also been in situations where I was down and my opponent blundered (this actually happened to me while I played a master in a blitz game). So I understand that dilemma from both perspectives. But there's one thing that helps me not to be so angry when I'm in a situation where I'm 'clearly' winning, yet my opponent won't resign.

It is amazing the things we chess players forget as we grow in the game of chess. Some 30 years ago I learned that the object of a chess game is to CHECKMATE your opponent's king. The reality that I may have won a piece or two is good, but that's not the ultimate objective. So I go into every game with the objective of checkmating my opponent's king. And I assume that this is also my opponent's objective in every game. This has helped me not to be so frustrated.


22nd July 2008, 10:10am
#24
by santiR
outside Washington D.C. United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1023

i normally resign only when i'm down on material badly (like two pieces and a pawn) and have no attack or complications. i've won a few clearly lost games cause the opponent blunders. but i don't play for the chance that he'll missan unlikely checkmate.


22nd July 2008, 10:23am
#25
by pengowo
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 8

NEVER RESIGN even if you think your going to lose if you spot their attack possibly mate early enough you can avoid it and if you keep repeating that process you can claim a 50 move draw 


22nd July 2008, 10:32am
#26
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3693

pengowo wrote:

NEVER RESIGN even if you think your going to lose if you spot their attack possibly mate early enough you can avoid it and if you keep repeating that process you can claim a 50 move draw 


Haha, good one! How's that strategy working out for you?


22nd July 2008, 10:33am
#27
by Ricky_Gerding
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 9

OK i just want to point out that this is why you NEVER RESIGN as stated by pengowo above this is a game i played in a recent tournament. by the way my opponent was ranked about 110 points higher than me.

 


22nd July 2008, 11:22am
#28
by eternal21
New Jersey Poland
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 399

IrishMike wrote:

I read a thread on this site not too long ago about players who resign when they are down and many said they shouldn't resign- just keep playing until they are checkmated- so who is correct?


If you're a beginner - you should keep playing to the very end - you'll learn more that way.  If you know what you are doing, and so does your opponent - you should resign when you can tell there is no way of winning the game, appart from a terrible series of blunders by your opponent.


22nd July 2008, 11:48am
#29
by diskamyl
International
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 284

pengowo wrote:

NEVER RESIGN even if you think your going to lose if you spot their attack possibly mate early enough you can avoid it and if you keep repeating that process you can claim a 50 move draw 


Lol good luck with that.


22nd July 2008, 12:05pm
#30
by bowanza
United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 267

I don't resign until

1)  I can see the exact sequence of moves forcing mate, and

2) I know my opponent can see the exact sequence of moves forcing the mate.


22nd July 2008, 12:10pm
#31
by karpovenko
Buenos Aires Argentina
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 39
Evil Homer, From Dublin, Ireland. You think you are funny but I won't tell you what I think you are. That guy you are referring to is a cheat. He used a powerful engine to win the game. Cheats don't deserve any respect so what I said to him is just a mild version of what I think of him or people like him. Clear? Evil_Homer wrote:

I see when you got beaten by Neurionb you were very rude too him in your message. Perhaps your opponent was scared of what would happen if he won/lost, so was delaying the inevitable till his courage had been fortified.



22nd July 2008, 12:13pm
#32
by bastiaan
eindhoven Netherlands
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 756

diskamyl wrote:

pengowo wrote:

NEVER RESIGN even if you think your going to lose if you spot their attack possibly mate early enough you can avoid it and if you keep repeating that process you can claim a 50 move draw 


Lol good luck with that.


Haha indeed. Irritated or annoyed aren't close of being able to describe how I feel about this topic and these kinds of comments. *goosefraba*

please don't try your sophisticated 50 move trick on me:) thanks


22nd July 2008, 12:19pm
#33
by eternal21
New Jersey Poland
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 399

bowanza wrote:

I don't resign until

1)  I can see the exact sequence of moves forcing mate, and

2) I know my opponent can see the exact sequence of moves forcing the mate.


Again - depending on the level of play it's really not necessary.  I may not see the exact sequence of moves to mate, but if for example I can see that there is no way I can stop my opponent's pawn from promoting in the end-game, I'll be resigning right away.  Same goes for me being down by 5 points and playing a superior opponent.


22nd July 2008, 12:27pm
#34
by karpovenko
Buenos Aires Argentina
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 39
Oh, but I AM expecting him to resign!! Rook, bishop and five pawns vs. a lonely king is a clear win!! ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Please change "refuse to resign" to "continue to play on", otherwise it sounds like you are asking or expecting him to resign.



22nd July 2008, 12:31pm
#35
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750

karpovenko wrote: Evil Homer, From Dublin, Ireland. You think you are funny but I won't tell you what I think you are. That guy you are referring to is a cheat. He used a powerful engine to win the game. Cheats don't deserve any respect so what I said to him is just a mild version of what I think of him or people like him. Clear? Evil_Homer wrote:

I see when you got beaten by Neurionb you were very rude too him in your message. Perhaps your opponent was scared of what would happen if he won/lost, so was delaying the inevitable till his courage had been fortified.


 


I think in the last forum thread I saw on the matter, most posters agreed that he did not cheat.

Calling someone a cheat is also bad form, if you really suspect him, then report it to the admins!


22nd July 2008, 12:36pm
#36
by Maradonna
Scotland
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2137

What all this again. Groundhog Day :)

Stop moaning and just finish the game. Be glad you don't have larger concerns to worry your pretty little head over ;)


22nd July 2008, 12:47pm
#37
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2820

Well here's the most practical advice I can give you.

 

- Make yourself calm down a little, it's online chess and it's more or less free... what do you expect?

- Make good use of the conditional moves, it speeds the game up nicely.

- Start another game and allow that one to fall to the backburner.

- Pay extra attention and beat him as quickly as possible.

- ... and this one is for the rest of us ... keep this out of the forums, we can't help you and this isn't really a great place to vent, the blog is a nicer spot :).


22nd July 2008, 12:57pm
#38
by payet_alexandre
Montpellier France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 582

We've seen this complaint a thousand time.

If you have no time, no patience to wait for the end and no will to finish the game then simply try something else like live chess, maybe correspondance chess is not for you.

I'm not saying that to be agressive, I have nothing against you, I don't even know you but I just want to stress the point that in correspondance chess a game sometimes lasts several months so don't wait for games to end in a couple of days or you'll be deceived every day.

 


22nd July 2008, 01:04pm
#39
by lukeyboy_xx
london England
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 4544

just mate him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


22nd July 2008, 01:14pm
#40
by paul211
Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1795

diskamyl wrote:

 


Haha indeed. Irritated or annoyed aren't close of being able to describe how I feel about this topic and these kinds of comments. *goosefraba*

please don't try your sophisticated 50 move trick on me:) thanks.

Don' get upset, as I suggest that you read: " Don't sweat the small stuff and it's only smallstuff" by Richard Carlson Ph.D.

He does have several other books, the intent behind it all is to take time to reflex on one's attitude to better understand the others.

I am not joking this is a very informative book.

Hope you read it and tell us about it.

Another one of his very good book is : "One hour to live, one hour to love"

If you had only one hour to live, what would you do?

It will help anyone stress to come under a clear vision.

pengowo wrote:

 


Lol good luck with that.

NEVER RESIGN even if you think your going to lose if you spot their attack possibly mate early enough you can avoid it and if you keep repeating that process you can claim a 50 move draw 


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