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Threefold Repitition in Blitz


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #1

    macer75

    Hi everyone,

    The link below is to a 10/0 game I played earlier today (sry, I don't know how to put the game directly in my post). I realize that I made a lot of mistakes, especially toward the end when I was in time trouble (I ended up losing on time). But what I wanted to ask is, moves 22 - 31 are clearly an example of threefold repitition (actually closer to fivefold), yet the game was not drawn immediately. Does threefold repitition not exist in blitz or something?

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=438486764

    Thanks!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #2

    Chris2509

     You have to claim draw and it will be given - threefold repitition draw isn't given automatically.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #3

    livluvrok

    Chris2509 wrote:

     You have to claim draw and it will be given - threefold repitition isn't given automatically.

    Really? so that's why...lol

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #4

    Vivinski

    yes but you have the claim the draw, Click the small "draw" button next to "resign" when you are about to repeat for the 3rd time.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #5

    macer75

    O, thanks a lot! At least I'll know what to do next time.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #6

    livluvrok

    ok. So can you just randomly move the same piece back and forth 3 times and no matter what you can claim a draw?? That sounds kinda cheap...

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #7

    livluvrok

    ohhhh ok that makes ALOT more sense. haha sorry

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #8

    LetsReason

    Three-fold repetition means that the same exact position is on the board with the same side to move.

    Theoretically, you could have have the same position 10 moves apart each time and it still end in a draw if each time it is counted the pieces are in exactly the same position with the same person to move at each repetition.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #9

    livluvrok

    LetsReason wrote:

    Three-fold repetition means that the same exact position is on the board with the same side to move.

    Theoretically, you could have have the same position 10 moves apart each time and it still end in a draw if each time it is counted the pieces are in exactly the same position with the same person to move at each repetition.

    weeeeeeerd that seems hard to do

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #10

    Estragon

    Well, the most common occurrence of threefold repetition is three consecutive anyway, but the rule does specify not only must it be the same position and the same side to move, but also both sides must have the same moves available.  So if one side loses the right to castle after two repetitions but before the third, the count starts over, and a position with the option of capturing en passant can never be the first repetition.

    The ONLY "automatic" draws are stalemate on the board and a draw offer accepted by the opponent.  Repetition and the 50-move rule must be claimed.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #11

    Vivinski

    melvernboy wrote:

    No, it's not 3 moves sequence but 3 same positions.

    semantics

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #12

    Scottrf

    Vivinski wrote:
    melvernboy wrote:

    No, it's not 3 moves sequence but 3 same positions.

    semantics

    Not really, an important distinction which probably made my opponent miss it:

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=56667618


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