to resign!???!!

Jump to forum:
« Previous | 1 2 | Next » | Last Post
5th August 2008, 10:40pm
#1
by vagamundo
Melbourne Colombia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1292

Don't know why, in this site, where a great number of chess fans like me gather, the majority of players decide to resign a game when the going starts to go tough...!!!  Ok, Grand Masters hardly ever finish a game till there's a checkmate but 99.9% of us are no GM!  C'mon people!: play your games till the very end even when overpowered, learn from your opponent, learn endgame tactics, review games if you have time...  But please: try & NOT resign before time!!!

5th August 2008, 10:46pm
#2
by Mygame5377
Columbus ohio United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1307

When it is over u have to resign that is the game. Why play a game that u are not going to win or even have a chance at? 

5th August 2008, 10:46pm
#3
by Maradonna
Scotland
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2130

I'm a bit of a resigner. Not because I've thrown my teddy in the corner when I'm losing, just cos, like :)

Na, I'll try and mix it up for a few moves but if there's nothing, there's nothing.

5th August 2008, 10:47pm
#4
by kco
Perth Australia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 6919

Agree with you.

5th August 2008, 10:54pm
#5
by ThaddeusK
United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1

i resign when i have no chance of winning, because it is disrespectful to your opponent and a waste of everyones time to continue playing when the game's outcome has been decided.

5th August 2008, 11:07pm
#6
by lithium11
Wellington New Zealand
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 609

I have played a few games where I have been well ahead, and my opponent has said they will play until they get mated, I have slipped and they have ended up stealing a draw or winning because of a late game blunder.
These these occur very rarely. Although it is difficult to continue when the board looks woeful, try giving it a chance every now and then, especially in a game you can learn from or where there just might be a way out of the maze.

5th August 2008, 11:18pm
#7
by vagamundo
Melbourne Colombia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1292

ok, Mygame5377, like lithium11 wisely put it, there can be late blunders & the upper hand can change sides!  It is NOT a waste of time Thaddeusk! This game doesn't end until the king is dead (THAT'S how the game is!!!) so it can never be disrespectful to anybody!!!  & Maradonna: as long as you have a pawn, even if your opponent has more pieces, there is always a chance!

5th August 2008, 11:18pm
#8
by phishcake5
California United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 793

I've only been around for a few months, but this topic sure seems to come up a lot. 

I believe for players under say 1500 (chess.com) where there are still a fair # of blunders and knowledge of the 3 phases of the game is anything but comprehensive, it is best to go ahead and play it out, for both sides. 

5th August 2008, 11:23pm
#9
by FLoReA
Laval Canada
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 6

I always play till the end. You learn more that way. Plus its fun when you pull off a stalemate and usually theres always some form of counterplay available. Ive pulled off draws when down and ive come back 5, 6, 7, 8 points down to win the game. Never give up never say die.

Often when people are ahead, they take the game for granted. They let go of the struggle. Theres always a chance you can come back.

5th August 2008, 11:34pm
#10
by vagamundo
Melbourne Colombia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1292

Agree 100% with you FLoReA!  As careful a player as I am, in a recent game -that I'm still playing!- I was two pieces ahead of my opponent & started to fool around to the point that I almost got behind...  I should've won that game a few moves ago!!!

5th August 2008, 11:51pm
#11
by dkulikov
Santa Cruz United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 31

yes, even when the game looks hopeless you still have a chance but what is the point of continuing from such a position, at best your opponent will make a blunder and you will win, however this has in no way improved your game and has simply wasted both your and your opponents time. So why would you prolong a game from which you gain nothing (In fact your energy would be put to better use by resigning learning where you went wrong and starting new game).

6th August 2008, 12:10am
#12
by samsom
Newcastle United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 37

dkulikov wrote:

yes, even when the game looks hopeless you still have a chance but what is the point of continuing from such a position, at best your opponent will make a blunder and you will win, however this has in no way improved your game and has simply wasted both your and your opponents time. So why would you prolong a game from which you gain nothing (In fact your energy would be put to better use by resigning learning where you went wrong and starting new game).

 

 

If you do not want to get ahead in the game because of your opponents blunders , then you probably should not be playing chess. You do start out even and its always an opponents "blunder" ( some subtle, some downright abysmal) that gives you an edge.

6th August 2008, 12:22am
#13
by dkulikov
Santa Cruz United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 31

samsom wrote:

dkulikov wrote:

yes, even when the game looks hopeless you still have a chance but what is the point of continuing from such a position, at best your opponent will make a blunder and you will win, however this has in no way improved your game and has simply wasted both your and your opponents time. So why would you prolong a game from which you gain nothing (In fact your energy would be put to better use by resigning learning where you went wrong and starting new game).

 

 

If you do not want to get ahead in the game because of your opponents blunders , then you probably should not be playing chess. You do start out even and its always an opponents "blunder" ( some subtle, some downright abysmal) that gives you an edge.


Yes, taking advantage of blunders is an important aspect to chess, but playing a lost position and hoping to win on a blunder just seems like a waste. That does not improve your play but stunts it. So knowing how to take advantage of a blunder is very different from playing a lost position and praying for one.

6th August 2008, 01:04am
#14
by sahope
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 10

I was recently playing against a friend, and we were playing out the game that I was about to lose.  Other than Kings, it was 1 Pawn vs 7 Pawns + 1 Rook + 1 Knight.  Very obvious who was going to win.  It was only a few moves away from checkmate, but it ended in a stalemate draw.

6th August 2008, 01:22am
#15
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3190

why RESIGN

why CONTINUE PLAYING

because it is disrespectful to your opponent to prolong a game

because it is disrespectful to your opponent not to complete the game

nothing of importance to be learned (just how to do endings)

something of importance to be learned (how to do endings)

the essence of chess is to learn from your mistakes

the essence of chess is to maximise your points

no honour in relying in opponent’s blunder for a stalemate

great satisfaction in a stalemate as a result of opponent’s blunder

the guidance says you should do it

the rules don’t say you have to

top players usually do it

top players don’t always do it

we are like top players

we are not like top players

accept the inevitable

never give up; never say die; “I’m not a quitter”

a waste of time

not a waste of time

In tournaments, I have a responsibility not to prolong the tournament for everyone

In tournaments, I have a right to play as long as I want

outcome can be clearly seen and understood

outcome can not be clearly seen and understood

outcome is almost 100% certain

outcome is not 100% certain

My opponent has demonstrated that he probably has the ability to achieve checkmate

My opponent has not proved that he has the ability to achieve checkmate

I don’t want to be childish

I want to be childish (‘punish’/annoy my opponent)

it’s the right thing to do

it’s the right thing to do

6th August 2008, 06:59am
#16
by lanceuppercut_239
United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 454

vagamundo wrote:

as long as you have a pawn, even if your opponent has more pieces, there is always a chance!


Except for certain very specific situations, "there is always a chance" only if your opponent is an idiot.

6th August 2008, 07:01am
#17
by Rael
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5084

I like to resign when I'm winning. Seriously.

6th August 2008, 07:07am
#18
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3190

I hope you offer a draw when you're losing - for consistency's sake.

6th August 2008, 07:09am
#19
by Rael
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5084

Nope, I resign then too.

6th August 2008, 10:28am
#20
by Duffer1965
Jersey City, NJ United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 437

tworthington wrote:

Resigning is a personal choice, there is no right or wrong.  If your opponent wants you to resign because they are in a hurry to move on let them resign.  If your opponent thinks your situation is hopeless and you are wasting their time, they should checkmate you.  If they are unable to checkmate you maybe they are not all that good.


Well said.

I sometimes play on when it's fairly hopeless, and sometimes I resign very early -- like move 10 if I've bungled the opening and dropped a piece. It depends entirely on the particular circumstances. With friends who like to chat, I play on because I'm enjoying the conversation. When I have too many games going, it does not make sense to spend a lot of time trying to scrape a draw out of a bungled position when I can concentrate on other games.

Part of the secret to living with other humans is developing the ability to accept behavior that does not mirror identically what you would do in that situation.

I would prefer not to play with someone who will flip out if I either resign early or fail to resign in a lost position. I don't know what I might end up doing, so I'd prefer to play with people who have some flexibility. It's nice when my oppoent can be open minded about my good faith; whatever I'm doing, it won't be to irritate him or her.

« Previous | 1 2 | Next » | Last Post

Add your comment:

Join Chess.com for free to add your comment! Already a member? Then login now to comment.