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Too Many Unrated Games


  • 21 months ago · Quote · #1

    LimeFlavored

    I'm new around here... well, relatively, and I've noticed that there are a large number of people who want to play unrated games.

    Why is that?

    I personally use my rating as a gauge for how I'm playing at the time... for instance, where I just came from I was as high as 1269 for about 2 months but fell to just under 1200 before coming over here because, well, I was slacking.

    Playing an unrated game seems to be anti-productive to me, personally.  I want to keep my rating involved because I want to know how I'm doing.

    Isn't this the attitude everyone should have?

    I'm just baffled and wanted to hear what others think. 

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #2

    ivandh

    Some people get too worked up about their ratings so they play unrated. I don't see why they don't just relax but whatever floats your boat.

    What makes you think there are too many unrated games though? You can see a lot of open unrated challenges because not many people accept them. The rated ones get snapped up pretty quick.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #3

    LimeFlavored

    Maybe I'm just seeing the list of unrated challenges open.  I didn't think about that angle. 

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #4

    TJW189

    People might want to try out new approaches (i.e. agressive play, different openings), but they don't want the experimental approach to be represented in their rating.

    My cousin and I always have a game going, and we don't have it rated.  We can try different things, and we don't hurt each other's rating (more I don't want him hurting mine, since he generally wins).

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #5

    now_and_zen

    I think unrated games are underrated, so I never play them.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #6

    AndyClifton

    I also play a lot of unrated games.  I too "want to keep my rating involved," and (frankly) I'd rather not risk it for a very small gain.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #7

    LongIslandMark

    I could see the appeal of an unrated game if you wanted to try out a new approach. Also I play unrated games with my nephew on another site, acting as a chess mentor (Yeah my rating is well below average - but he is just starting - hopefully he will surpass me soon).

    Another reason for unrated games is getting a match with a player rated much higher than you. You might view it as a learning opportunity, the higher rated player might see a rated game as a lose-lose scenerio: almost no points for a win, plenty of downside for a loss (and you might be a sandbagger).

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #8

    LimeFlavored

    I have seen a drop in the number of games people want to play unrated.  I may have just been looking while a group of them decided to do it all at once.  

    If I come across a sandbagger (of which I recently have) I just don't play them anymore.  My rating is just a number and trying to save it wastes too much of my energy.  I fluctuate, sure, but I always end up back where I should have been in the end.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #9

    Fear_ItseIf

    Usually I have 50ish games going at once and care very little for any of them. Some are rated tournament games, but usually people dont move fast enough for me to have something to do..so i start some unrated games until the next round of the tournaments start or something, then ill just resign any of the ones that are boring.
    If all my games were rated then my rating wouldnt be accurate, since id be resigning non lost games all the time, and by extension when i play rated id be often playing people below my level.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #10

    AndyClifton

    LongIslandMark wrote:

    Another reason for unrated games is getting a match with a player rated much higher than you. You might view it as a learning opportunity, the higher rated player might see a rated game as a lose-lose scenerio: almost no points for a win, plenty of downside for a loss (and you might be a sandbagger).

    This summed up my point better than I did...

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #11

    LongIslandMark

    AndyClifton wrote:
    LongIslandMark wrote:

    Another reason for unrated games is getting a match with a player rated much higher than you. You might view it as a learning opportunity, the higher rated player might see a rated game as a lose-lose scenerio: almost no points for a win, plenty of downside for a loss (and you might be a sandbagger).

    This summed up my point better than I did...

    A rare feat! Andy - you need to work on your sums.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #12

    now_and_zen

    From the standpoint of high ranking players unrated games are a good way to engage in philanthropic volunteer work.  Like 1000 Points of Light in the chess world.  Of course if you rank high and lose, you don't lose any ELO points, but Master_Valium can still post the game to this forum and beat his chest like King Kong about it, and insist you weren't really drunk off your ass at the time.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #13

    TheLastSupper

    I play unrated games when I do not want to think too much, or when I am playing on my cell phone. You simpy cannot play live games as fast as you would on a pc/laptop, also more prone to 'misclicks'.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #14

    now_and_zen

    SecretOfMana wrote:

    I play unrated games when I do not want to think too much, or when I am playing on my cell phone. You simpy cannot play live games as fast as you would on a pc/laptop, also more prone to 'misclicks'.

    Now THAT is a good idea.  I'm used to playing on my Mac with a Magic Trackpad, and I can't seem to perceive the game as well on the small screen of my iPhone when in the waiting room or somewhere killing time.  That would be a good way to pass the time with an unrated game, with no risk.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #15

    landwehr

    never unrated

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #16

    now_and_zen

    landwehr wrote:

    never unrated

    If you're playing at a distinct disadvantage such that the negative impact on your score is not reflective of your current skill, that might be a realistic and reasonable time to play unrated. Otherwise, what's the point?

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #17

    landwehr

    the point is unrated is pointless...and cannot be taken seriously

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #18

    tabor

    There may be another point of view. Assuming similar strength of players, Prefering rated games means that what you want is accumulate points and raise your ELO. Prefering unrated games you really want to play chess for the pure sake of chess.

     

    Here is  curious “survey”. . .

     

    Taking a look (glance) at the “Quick Search´s”, specially the “Any´s”

     --.You find very few foreign countries (as per USA and UK) in the rated games than in the unrated ---Look at the “No preference Any”

     

    Looks like the industrious countries players have very well in mind the idea of the “benefit” in any event. The others, more “romantic”, go for the pure spirit of “playing chess” forgetting about any material benefits.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #19

    now_and_zen

    landwehr wrote:

    the point is unrated is pointless...and cannot be taken seriously

    Exactly, it is points-less, but only pointless to a point, in that unrated can have a very good point, and that point is, that, if playing rated will detract from your points in a way that isn't really reflective of your rating or skill, then playing rated is more pointless than playing unrated. 

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #20

    Annabella1

    landwehr wrote:

    the point is unrated is pointless...and cannot be taken seriously

     

    I agree


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