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What happaned to chess? :(


  • 19 months ago · Quote · #1

    eXon2

    I am really interested to learn chess at the moment. But unfortuantly i am also sad about it, i miss the old games like Kasparov vs Short where the games went out 30 minutes for both. I mean there u could think way better and more and the plays were mor Tactical than just fast playing.

    Why the change came that games are now 5 or 3 or (what i think is completely braindead) 1 minute chess games? It's not about outplaying your enemy anymore like short, tal and many others its just going straight into the game with insanely fast desicions who are mostly not the best one's.

    So where that came from short 3-5 minute games? I dont like that..

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #2

    msimx

    true

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #3

    trysts

    Then why are you playing that? You do have the choice of playing games with longer time-controls, and the grandmasters today play long games.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #4

    eXon2

    mh okay than i am maybe wrong informated because most new gm games i find are going 3-5 minutes and i mean real games not online. So where are acutall long games from gms ?

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #5

    ElKitch

    they indeed play not long online. because of the risk of cheating opponent and they have played so many games already that they rather play quick games to see how the opening works out.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #6

    eXon2

    so where are actuell long games in chess? At like new tournaments and stuff.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #7

    trysts

    eXon2 wrote:

    mh okay than i am maybe wrong informated because most new gm games i find are going 3-5 minutes and i mean real games not online. So where are acutall long games from gms ?

    The link below has the major grandmaster tounaments you can view:

    http://livechess.chessdom.com/site/

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #8

    eXon2

    trysts hat geschrieben.

    The link below has the major grandmaster tounaments you can view:

    http://livechess.chessdom.com/site/

    Nice site big thx!

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #9

    trysts

    You're welcome:)

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #10

    kavanam

    I accept the OP's view.

    Also I endorse my earlier opinion that anything less than 5 minutes game is AN INSULT TO CHESS!

    Coming to think of it now, even the 5 minutes to 10 minutes are an INSULT TO CHESS!

     

    Perhaps right from 15 min. each game is ok and acceptable!

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #11

    Moyuba

    theweekinchess.com is a great resource for keeping up with the lastest tournaments.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #12

    BabyRhinoRainbow

    OP's rating is not high enough to tell the difference between GM's playing blitz vs long time controls (and neither am I!)

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #13

    ChessSponge

    I was actually just thinking today that it seems chess is headed to blitz being the main type eventually and the internet is a big reason why.

     

    Most chess sites have the majority of players playing 3-5 minute games and one site has a huge focus on 1 minute games. Even chess.com does the blitz deathmatch games.

     

    I personally am not a big fan of blitz chess but it seems like I should get into it as that is where the tide is headed. On this site if you sit at the live chess screen you'll see the occasional blib on 30m, pretty much nothing ever longer than that, and christmas light displays in the 3-5 range with many games open for matches and a constant cycling of those games filling and new ones opening.

     

    Major tournaments are still normal time controls but that company bought the media rights and do you think they'll find a way to broadcast 90 minute chess games and get viewers/make money? Or will they have a much better shot at getting viewers with "exciting" 5  minute games?

    Even twitch.tv which is a video game live feed site now has a couple of people who occasionally live stream chess games. Naturally those are also blitz.

     

    So as much as I'm not a fan and would much rather play longer matches to get time to think and plan, I can see where the focus is going and figure it is time to start adapting to that type of play.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #14

    Cashionova

    I can sympathize with the OP's opinion and many others here about blitz chess lacking a lot of the mind-warping placid beauty that longer games can have.

    But I need to stick up for blitz a little. It has a place.

    Aside from the opportunity to see loads and loads of positions, it can give you insight into your chess intuition and help you improve.

    Intuition is simply the brain subconciously recognizing patterns. And it gets better and better with practice.  It works with engineering, mathematics, music, solving IQ puzzles, art, cooking, relationships..anything. I'm sure everyone in here has experienced it.  Things can just start to inexplicably "feel" right once you get good enough at something.

    I can tell that my own chess intuition is improving...but chess is a very steep slope as all of us here know...you have to love it I think.

    BabyRhino and I agree in that GMs playing bullet still blows the amateur's mind.

    The Shankland vs Hess Deathmatch had some sweet chess in my patzer opinion.  Just shows you how far the intuition can go.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #15

    goldendog

    Moses2792796 wrote:

    If it were possible, I think Nakamura would beat most people on this site with time odds of 1min vs 3 days per move.

    I think this was like a typical day for Kacparov here, just a few seconds per move, when he was 2200+ FIDE.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #16

    Cashionova

    Moses2792796 wrote:

    If it were possible, I think Nakamura would beat most people on this site with time odds of 1min vs 3 days per move.


    Haha I can imagine him staring at his monitor anxiously awaiting the next move for three days.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #17

    Fred_Hache

    Sometimes i get this in my screen: "Please do not intentionally abort or disconnect from games, or make your opponents wait unnecessarily"

    I must admit, i did things like that in the past.  But the last 6/7 months no more.  Yes, i sometimes leave immediately when i loose- or win the game.  But 99% from al times on the proper way now.

    When the game is finished, do i have to wait an half hour before i may leave Chess.Com ?
    Fred Haché

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #18

    ForgoneMoose

    Überschnell Chess - both players start with 1 second on their clocks, get three more every move

    Come on TC, get with the times, this is the pinnacle of chess evolution right here.


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