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badger_song

So your time machine actually works?

ab121705
bigpoison wrote:

Your hatred of women pollutes your thinking.

omg; that doesn't follow from anything I posted. I love women.

your lack of imagination and fear of political incorrectness shuts down your thinking

MNMSkyBlue
WorldChessNews wrote:
badger_song wrote:

So your time machine actually works?

It's as Reliable as the Existence of the "Bible" 

 

W.C.N

Are you funny? no.

_Number_6
batgirl wrote:
_Number_6 wrote:
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Prior to the FIDE WC cycle, there was really no such thing as a professional chess players and the WC's by and large came from academia. 

What's your basis for that contention?

By professional I mean abe to make a living at it on approximate par to other professional vocations.  Not professional as in a strong player.

Euwe:  mathematician, and author. He was not a full-time professional player; he got his PhD in pure mathematics in 1926, and worked as a school and college teacher. He was made Professor of Mathematics in 1964

Alexhine:  Married wealthy, studied lawand claimed a PhD.

Capabanca:  IMO an exception, he made a living on Chess

Lasker:  PhD in Mathematics.  Published the first chess magazine. 

Steinitz: Studied mathematics and died in poverty.

Even today, the number of players making a professional living from chess is likely far exceeded by the number of strong players leaving chess to undertake a career that compensates to the level of the effort made.

Before anyone goes down the genetic route it is worth noting that the sample of professional players is very small and social and economic factors are likely a far bigger determiner. 

Or if it is nature, maybe most women are just too smart to waste their time on chess.

Yohan_Saboba

I wouldn't really care at all. If the title is fairly won, I would have no problem "supporting" a woman chess champion (as long as she doesn't go off and start PCA II, lol, for all those that know FIDE politics).

batgirl
_Number_6 wrote:
batgirl wrote:
_Number_6 wrote:
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Prior to the FIDE WC cycle, there was really no such thing as a professional chess players and the WC's by and large came from academia. 

What's your basis for that contention?

By professional I mean abe to make a living at it on approximate par to other professional vocations.  Not professional as in a strong player.

Euwe:  mathematician, and author. He was not a full-time professional player; he got his PhD in pure mathematics in 1926, and worked as a school and college teacher. He was made Professor of Mathematics in 1964

Alexhine:  Married wealthy, studied lawand claimed a PhD.

Capabanca:  IMO an exception, he made a living on Chess

Lasker:  PhD in Mathematics.  Published the first chess magazine. 

Steinitz: Studied mathematics and died in poverty.

Even today, the number of players making a professional living from chess is likely far exceeded by the number of strong players leaving chess to undertake a career that compensates to the level of the effort made.

Before anyone goes down the genetic route it is worth noting that the sample of professional players is very small and social and economic factors are likely a far bigger determiner. 

Or if it is nature, maybe most women are just too smart to waste their time on chess.

Then you're not saying what you wrote, that there were no professional players, which would be absurd since professional chess players have been around since before the 15th century and probably since the 7th century, but rather that chess wasn't a very viable or profitable profession for most players, which is probably true to some extent.

Buck-Rogers

Is it true that WorldChessNews lost to Judit Polgar in less than ten moves when she gave a simul ?

awesomechess1729
Buck-Rogers wrote:

Is it true that WorldChessNews lost to Judit Polgar in less than ten moves when she gave a simul ?

I don't know, but that certainly sounds believable.

Doggy_Style
Buck-Rogers wrote:

Is it true that WorldChessNews lost to Judit Polgar in less than ten moves when she gave a simul ?

Yes. I saw it, and he cried afterwards too.

Luckily his Mommy was at the venue, or he would have been inconsolable.

DanQS420

jurassicmark wrote:

Even if she did garner more attention than normal, it would still amount to very little attention.  I have a lot of customers from Norway, and I often mention Magnus Carlsen.  Most of the Norwegians have heard of him, but, not once has his name led to an interesting conversation about chess.  Not once :(

Chess enthusiasts are a small, devoted clan.  I could be wrong, but I think it's destined to remain that way. 

good point.

MNMSkyBlue
WorldChessNews wrote:
Maybe_Player wrote:
WorldChessNews wrote:
badger_song wrote:

So your time machine actually works?

It's as Reliable as the Existence of the "Bible" 

 

W.C.N

Are you funny? no.

Mirrors work Wonders!  You should Now try..."You Talking to Me!"

 

W.C.N

Lame comeback wonders!

Maybe you should try not to mess with everyone in the chess.com community, as they all have much more sense then you.

Superqueen500

Then Aronian would feel like an idiot

Elubas

I thought sports teams have to be segregated? If not could I play on the girl's team? Or is little league different?

JamieDelarosa

In an increasing number of states, the youth sports, and school sports, are open to both sexes/genders.  Here in California, they now have a very progressive law in that respect.

Elubas

"In an increasing number of states, the youth sports, and school sports, are open to both sexes/genders."

That's surprising but a pleasant surprise.

OldChessDog

While there are undoubtedly male and female brain differences, and the study points out some interesting ones, I don't think that, by itself, means a female brain cannot compete on the same level as a male brain. Different intellectual approaches do not necessarily mean one is superior to the other, just different.

Elubas

Yeah but you would think that some approaches would work better than others in certain situations, depending on the task.

Although I wonder if what they say applies to every single man and woman. Like do they know my neurons are going to work in a certain way just by my gender? (not quite the same question as knowing what I'm good at)

So even if a man and a woman were equally good at some task, the way their neurons were working to do this were necessarily different? Since things vary so much I would have liked it if the person writing the article made it clear to what extent they were applying the thesis.

And I thought everyone did "thinking without thinking" -- isn't that just making a short cut decision based on your previous experiences?

MNMSkyBlue
WorldChessNews wrote:
Maybe_Player wrote:
WorldChessNews wrote:
Maybe_Player wrote:
WorldChessNews wrote:
badger_song wrote:

So your time machine actually works?

It's as Reliable as the Existence of the "Bible" 

 

W.C.N

Are you funny? no.

Mirrors work Wonders!  You should Now try..."You Talking to Me!"

 

W.C.N

Lame comeback wonders!

Maybe you should try not to mess with everyone in the chess.com community, as they all have much more sense then you.

You must be a Girl! with a low Rated Comment like that! 

 

W.C.N

You suck at converstations! Only insultive, and when you know you lost, you just say that my arguements suck! Good job! Hope either your account gets closed or you actually learn how to reinforce your arguements!
PS Assuming I'm a girl is an even worse arguement, as it proves that you are further trying to insult me to reinforce your arguement! Great logic! As I am not a girl, acutally! You must be a 10 year old on chess.com just begging for everyone to hate you and your lousy arguements! And plus you can't trusts wiki most of the pages are false on that. Approx 60%. 

I'm untracking thread because WCN should just leave this flame war. He can have the last word, as most immature idiots want. He can get what he wants; an lost flame war which he tries to come back but fails at every attempt. I can get what I want; closing his account for starting these flame wars on riduculous threads.

Elubas

Insultive. I just learned a new word tonight. A weird way to say "insulting" I guess :)

_Number_6

 

Then you're not saying what you wrote, that there were no professional players, which would be absurd since professional chess players have been around since before the 15th century and probably since the 7th century, but rather that chess wasn't a very viable or profitable profession for most players, which is probably true to some extent.

It matters how 'professional' is defined as it determines who can be included in the group.  A full time amature would require a second source of income.  Bringing us back on topic, opportunities for women to pursue a full time hobby would be socialy difficult.  As property and employment laws were restrictive to women well into the 20th century a second or private income would have been exceedingly rare until fairly recently.  Women in chess is undoubtably growing, but there will need to roughly an equal number of 2600, 2700, 2800+ female players to populate the candidate cycle in order to generate a WC.  Men have a 100 year head start so give it time.