What is chess?

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13th May 2007, 07:18am
#1
by peter
United States
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An art?

A science?

A sport?

A game?

A puzzle?

A hobby?

A profession?

14th May 2007, 11:03am
#2
by DeepBlue
Portland, OR United States
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I personally feel that chess is a game, simply because it most easily fits the definition and mindset that I was raised with. I tend to think of chess as a war reduced to its simplest components, with no consequence other than the loss of esteem or title. And this doesn't fit the category of sport, which I feel requires a physical component filling a primary role. Chess, while physical in some senses, only requires enough physical capacity to support the mental role, which is by far superior and primary.

 And though there is a component of art, and creativity is rampant in the upper echelons of chess; and while the scientific method is rife in chess; while puzzles are a contant in any chess match, and chess is had as a hobby by most and a profession for many; our sport is a game.

Argue semanticts if you must, and call Merriam to your side, but simply put our society doesn't include chess as a sport any more than it allows checkers, or Chutes and Ladders. 'Tis sad, but true.

 

Food for thought:

Chess is a sport-

 http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~sherman/Papers/chess_sport.txt

Chess isn't a sport-

http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/posts/1115594970.shtml

18th May 2007, 07:50pm
#3
by jay
San Jose, CA United States
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Chess is unique in that there are no other games like it. But it still is probably just a game. It would also fit the category of hobby, and profession, for some, but obviously not for all. Chess has amazing history behind it, more than probably any other game. It's closest neighbor is probably something like Go or Chinese chess, although I think both of these are very simplistic when compared to chess.
24th May 2007, 12:35pm
#4
by SonofPearl
Wales
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Member Points: 6295

This question can be more than simply academic.  In the UK, chess has only recently been accepted officially as a sport, which means that clubs can now apply for charitable funding for the first time.  Cool

22nd June 2007, 06:46pm
#5
by tactician
Bosnia-Herzegovina
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Chess is all those things because you can't say that it's not a art, science, sport, game, puzzle, hobby, or a profession.
23rd June 2007, 06:32am
#6
by Don1
Kissimmee, FL United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 763
I agree; all. Except maybe sport(physical), but it's the mental essence of all sport! Of course the body & the mind effect each other. So, maybe sport, too.
26th June 2007, 10:45am
#7
by Patzer24
United States
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I believe that chess either is a sport/profession or a game/hobby.

 

For myself I would like to think of it as a sport/profession because I take my chess very seriously. I have devoted much of my life to it and I cannot really see myself doing anything other than chess.

29th September 2007, 06:58am
#8
by makhluk-aneh
pekanbaru, riau Indonesia
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An art
29th September 2007, 10:35am
#9
by pauljames
Derbyshire England
Member Since: Sep 2007
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Futile?
29th September 2007, 10:37am
#10
by chewybac5
Buffalo, NY United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 247
peter wrote:

An art?

A science?

A sport?

A game?

A puzzle?

A hobby?

A profession?


I would say that chess could be viewed as any one of these things, it merely depends on the perspective of the person that is answering the question.

Personally I view it as a game, and to a degree a sport, but as I get older it could become a science or a profession, thusly it all depends on the person.


29th September 2007, 09:17pm
#11
by hooperxxx
Ferndale, MI United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 239
For me chess is a an enigma wrapped in a conundrum and hidden within a cryptogram. Seriously though, it is, for me, a game which I'd like to turn into a hobby. I believe that I started playing too late in life for it to ever be an art form and certainly not a profession.
29th September 2007, 09:21pm
#12
by hooperxxx
Ferndale, MI United States
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jay wrote: It's closest neighbor is probably something like Go or Chinese chess, although I think both of these are very simplistic when compared to chess.

 I don't think that Go is simplistic compared to anything. I'd hazard that you couldn't find a single chess Grandmaster who'd say that Go is anything but mindboggling. Edward and Emmanuel Lasker, two decent chess players, used to take Go lessons. 


19th January 2009, 05:30am
#13
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
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Member Points: 3511
peter wrote: An art? A science? A sport? A game? A puzzle? A hobby? A profession?

A battle (of wits).

19th January 2009, 05:43am
#14
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23171

A game of course it's stated it's a game almost in every chess manuel.

19th January 2009, 05:51am
#15
by shreeganeshMpillai
coimbatore India
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 1521

I think chess is a Game. All games are good for health, mind.... So chess is also good for mind. A good chess player can easily face their life problems. Chess gives the problem solving skill. I think like that.Wink



4th November 2009, 09:59pm
#16
by shane97
California United States
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Member Points: 1001

A game...

4th November 2009, 10:26pm
#17
by ryanshep
Bothell, WA United States
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It's a game but can become an art, it depends on who is pushing the pawns.

4th November 2009, 10:42pm
#18
by amitprabhale
Mumbai India
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Member Points: 319

Its combination of all these ingridents

5th November 2009, 04:25am
#19
by DMX21x1
Scotland
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 451

It's a board game, thats all. 

It can't be considered a sport because there is no physical activity to justify it.  I suspect the clock has something to do with the fact some folk think its sport.  I heard that an American study showed a 5 hour game between 2 GM's was the equivalent of 15 rounds of boxing, from the point of view of mental stress.

Scientifically I think there are mathematical overtones to it but that's all.

It sure is puzzling.  Not so much a puzzle, as a series of interlocking puzzles.

For people who play regular it's a hobby and for those who play professionally it's a profession.

It can sometimes be artistic but its not really an artform.  Not all Chess games are artistic.

5th November 2009, 04:54am
#20
by Meadmaker
Detroit, MI United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 90
jay wrote:
Chess is unique in that there are no other games like it. .... It's closest neighbor is probably something like Go or Chinese chess, although I think both of these are very simplistic when compared to chess.

You obviously haven't played much Xiangqi (Chinese Chess).

And it's worth noting that the world champion in Xiangqi is still a human being, although computers are expected to get there soon.  In Go, the computers haven't come close.

 

Chess is a game, but it can be any of those other things from the OP as well.  The thing that separates it from any number of other equally complex and rich abstract strategy board games is not really anything to do with the game itself.  It's the community of players that makes the difference.  I can describe to you all sorts of games with equal mental challenges that have all the same characteristics that make Chess a great game, but none of them have been studied, analyzed, and obsessed about for 500 years all around the globe.  That's what makes Chess different.  (Xiangqi comes close, but its influence has been mostly limited to China, Vietnam, and that part of the world.)

 

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