what to do when your opponent refuses drawing when its pawn + king vs. king

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28th June 2008, 01:46pm
#1
by donkarton
veenendaal Netherlands
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28th June 2008, 01:56pm
#2
by CJBas
Alabama United States
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The same thing you do when your opponent refuses a draw any other time; play it out.
28th June 2008, 01:56pm
#3
by radar6590
Jamestown United States
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play it out until you draw it?
28th June 2008, 01:57pm
#4
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
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1. wait for 3x same position and claim a draw.

or

2. wait for 50 moves without a pawn move and claim draw.

...and please change your profile picture. ;-)

 


28th June 2008, 01:58pm
#5
by Sunshiny
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
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Force your opponent to take the pawn.

Attempt to stalemate your opponent. 


28th June 2008, 02:11pm
#6
by Queenie
London House United Kingdom
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What would you like to do?
28th June 2008, 02:14pm
#7
by rcholmes
Huddersfield England
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Queenie wrote: What would you like to do?

Bungee jump naked.


28th June 2008, 02:21pm
#8
by chessplooge
San Francisco United States
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that looks to me like black could get a queen and win the game, yes?
28th June 2008, 02:25pm
#9
by Queenie
London House United Kingdom
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rcholmes wrote: Queenie wrote: What would you like to do?

Bungee jump naked.


Wow....... when you do, give us a shout..... I'll gather up the girls and we'll come along to cheer you on..............Hurray....  hurray... (just tuning up ready)


28th June 2008, 02:37pm
#10
by Jaguarphd
California United States
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This can be easily won by black 0_o
28th June 2008, 02:57pm
#11
by Sunshiny
United States
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Heh, i looked at the game the wrong way. I thought the person that posted this was playing black. Playing white, just play it out.
28th June 2008, 03:06pm
#12
by Nilesh
Philadelphia, PA United States
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This is an easy win.
28th June 2008, 03:17pm
#13
by Sunshiny
United States
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Nilesh wrote: This is an easy win.

 Only if you consider a draw a win.


28th June 2008, 03:29pm
#14
by Marshal_Dillon
New Jersey United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
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Nilesh wrote: This is an easy win.

 Please back up your words with a diagram. I'm sure we'd all like to learn how to turn a draw into a win.Black CANNOT win because in order to queen the pawn, the king has to be able to take command of the g1 square. As long as white retains control over that square, it is a draw.


28th June 2008, 03:31pm
#15
by larsky
Manila Philippines
Member Since: May 2008
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Theoritically that is a drawn K+P vs K ending. But in actual play an average player sometimes bungles such position and lost the game for white. But just play on, that is similar to a lost position who refuses to resign.
28th June 2008, 03:32pm
#16
by TheAOD
St. Louis United States
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Jaguarphd wrote: This can be easily won by black 0_o

 I thought so too, but with correct play by white there is no way black can force a promotion.  It seems that white has to keep on g1, g2, and h1 until repitition draws or check is called and then move the king to g1.  At this point black will always have to protect at g3 or lose the pawn; unfortunately for black this means that the white king cannot move qed stalemate.

The only way black can "easily" win is if white makes the unfortunate mistake of moving to h2 or f2. Even then black has to be in the correct position to capitalize.

It should be mentioned that my analysis may not be perfect and anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anthony 


28th June 2008, 03:36pm
#17
by TheAOD
St. Louis United States
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How do you guys post those cool diagrams?

 


28th June 2008, 03:37pm
#18
by yeres30
Waipahu, Hawaii United States
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Member Points: 621

Did all you people forget that what you are all commenting upon or giving hints are all illegal?

Have all of you forgotten that the game is still in progress and therefore everyone should stay away or keep your silence?


28th June 2008, 03:38pm
#19
by dragondorf
TORONTO Canada
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Member Points: 385
just play it out until you get a draw
28th June 2008, 03:46pm
#20
by yeres30
Waipahu, Hawaii United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 621
Commenting on a game in progress whether solicited or not is illegal. In OTB chess a player who makes a comment or suggestion on a game in progress if discovered by the TD automatically gets  thrown out of the tournament.  And if the player is discovered to have solicited advice he too is thrown out  of the tournament.
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