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Education and intelligence
Unfortunately a lot of people assume that a given level of education is an indicator of intelligence. In my experience it is anything but.
When I was at school, the teacher used the word "dunce" to describe one boy in our class. Clearly this chap had even less interest in the books than the rest of us. But I remember the teacher giving him a hard time.
Outside of school this same boy was always tinkering with car engines. His interest in cars far outweighed any academic ambitions.
Some years after we left school, those of us who had gone on to university etc could not have missed the newspaper reports showing that same boy being paid £1 million pounds in 1971 by Rolls Royce for the patent which he developed for an engine modification. The same teachers who called this boy a dunce, could only dream of that kind of money.
Point is that intelligence has many different markers.
+1.Completely agree with you.Even Thomas Alva Edison and Albert Einstein's teachers called them a dunce.
Edison referred to Tesla as beneath him, wouldn't listen to him or pay him for his work and each in their own way were definitely geniuses, if you ask me. I'd say Tesla was the more brilliant of the two but, I have given more merit, in later years, to Edison's work. I think perhaps had Tesla lived long enough, he would have also. I think the same could be said of Edison.
In fact, I asked myself the other day, what would the world have been like, if they'd have respected each other, taken the time to realize the relevance of their respective works and been willing to work together where applicable and be there for one another otherwise ?
True.Tesla is extremely underrated tbh.Few people know of his extraordinary brilliance with machines.
I think its safe to say the highest rated chess player in history is going to be a genius.. Therefore IQ and chess ability interlink
A genius at chess for sure. I'm not yet convinced (because I haven't seen the evidence) that chess ability and IQ are particularly strongly correlated.
"I think it's safe to say that licorice and ice cream sundaes taste good...therefore licorice ice cream sundaes are everyone's favorite sundae. So say I, and there's your proof."
Just as ridiculous a statement.
@Twobit: according to answers on this quora page it's not harder to learn a second language when you get older:
Why wouldn't IQ correlate with chess which is supposed to be a thinking game (in particular memory recall, judgment, and calculation)? It would be like saying powerlifting doesn't correlate with physical strength.
You're responding to a 3 year old post, to a person who has no visible account activity since mid-2013 ;)...
Magnus is amazing fullstop.
I'm beginning to believe that IQ has little to do with playing a good game of chess - but good spatial sense has. This would explain why children take to chess so easily. That, and a willingness to take risks. Boldness and courage on the battle field...and a thorough understanding of the game.
An IQ test is about recognising logical patterns, and as chess is pretty much the same thing I think there is some correlation. I think most people can reach ~2600 with enough tutoring and such, but to come above that, like a Super GM, you need something special.
i thought he was retartet
Interesting question. I think having good spatial ability would be an enormous asset in chess. I've just started chess and am doing well enough, but the "visualize the chess board" problems leave me stumped.
Probably is higher than 170, but I will search in Google
uh no probably not lol
I would speculate... 130 - 150
He's not so much "intelligent" as having a very good memory.
He's also quite immature for a 24 year old.
I read online that Kasparov's IQ is around 190.
For any fictions readers out there, "The Queen's Gambit" by Walter Tevis is one of my favorite books; it gives you an inside look at a great chess player's mind. For fans of old-time movies, Tevis also wrote "The Hustler".
I realize this isn't perfect science but, it is quite hard to ignore:
This speaks for itself, you should notice an interesting correlation to the one below it:
I chose this set of stats because it best characterizes the behavior of the tactics trainer's timer.
I lol'd. If I put up a graph of the time it takes people to poop, it would likely have the same binomial distribution. Would you then conclude that pooping times and chess prowess were linked? Durrrrrrrr........
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