who came first chiken or egg.

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3rd July 2009, 12:39pm
#21
by Stalin1
Antwerpen Belgium
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The Theory of Evolution says that species change over time in the process of evolution. Since DNA can be modified only before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken egg.[7][8] In this light, both the egg and the chicken evolved simultaneously from birds who weren't chickens and didn't lay chicken eggs but gradually became more and more like chickens over time.

However, a mutation in one individual is not normally considered a new species. A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases; this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears. The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl.[9] Assuming the evidence bears out, a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the chicken-egg came before the chicken.

3rd July 2009, 12:42pm
#22
by anonym
following the guidon United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 268

Q: Who came first: Stalin or Trotsky?

3rd July 2009, 12:44pm
#23
by anonym
following the guidon United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 268
anonym wrote:

Q: Who came first: Stalin or Trotsky?


A: Trotsky, of course -- always distinguished by his gait, which was somewhere in-between a walksky and a runsky.

3rd July 2009, 12:58pm
#24
by Sir_Beast
Lexington, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 711

Biblically the chicken came first, because it says in the bible, God created the animals. not eggs. I say it is the chicken, beware thought I am non religious.

3rd July 2009, 01:00pm
#25
by Sir_Beast
Lexington, SC United States
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 711

I agree thank Colonel Sanders, for I would be skinny as a stick if it wasn't for him.

I owe you a bog debt colonel!!

3rd July 2009, 01:00pm
#26
by littlehotpot
United Kingdom
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 415
Stalin1 wrote:

The Theory of Evolution says that species change over time in the process of evolution. Since DNA can be modified only before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken egg.[7][8] In this light, both the egg and the chicken evolved simultaneously from birds who weren't chickens and didn't lay chicken eggs but gradually became more and more like chickens over time.

However, a mutation in one individual is not normally considered a new species. A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases; this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears. The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl.[9] Assuming the evidence bears out, a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the chicken-egg came before the chicken.


 have just copied this from the internet

3rd July 2009, 01:15pm
#27
by BAG062A
Unknown International
Member Since: Jun 2009
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chicken if god created egg first then the egg would die so chicken must come first but what if the egg is a rooster not a chicken

3rd July 2009, 01:55pm
#28
by LordJones3rd
Bristol Wales
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nocornincornok wrote:

God created the Chicken first


 LOL

3rd July 2009, 01:59pm
#29
by LordJones3rd
Bristol Wales
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Member Points: 617

let's just say that they both appeared at the same time.

3rd July 2009, 10:01pm
#30
by kissinger
seattle United States
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well, i like eggs sunny side up on toast with bacon and sometimes jam.....yum yum, and i like a really good chicken sandwich (moist juicy breast meat only please), I can eat these foods in any order, but usually i will eat the eggs on toast item first (breakfast), and i will eat the moist chicken sandwich later (lunch or dinner)  so i guess perhaps i have come at this forum question in a different direction (egg first then chicken)  do you see the way i put the answer together....really cool huh...like Einstein using mind games to arrive at his General theory, i digress, please check my profile often, i want to hit 2,000 views ....it would mean alot to me.....thanks for reading this....no offense intended  to any groups or persons.......

3rd July 2009, 10:20pm
#31
by sarkinaiki
Everett, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 132

The kakroach.

3rd July 2009, 10:46pm
#32
by COREY187
THE HOME OF BIGGIE. r.i.p. MIKE JACKSON United States
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dus

3rd July 2009, 11:31pm
#33
by cnwlwzj
tianjin China
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 281

I don't think it has a significant meaning to people whatever the answer is.Do you think so? 

4th July 2009, 12:37am
#34
by LordJones3rd
Bristol Wales
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i don't really care

4th July 2009, 02:46am
#35
by 87654321
England
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 302

the half assed scientists posting are obssessing over the chicken point and are unable to answer the question of who laid the first egg.

4th July 2009, 11:55am
#36
by LordJones3rd
Bristol Wales
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 617

probably a gorgonopsid

4th July 2009, 12:56pm
#37
by kmisho
Richmond, Virginia United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 12
DeepGreene wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:

Well, the concept of a chicken egg had no meaning before a chicken existed so I'd say it's more valid to assign the egg type based on the layer not what hatches out of it.  An unfertilized chicken egg (like you'd buy at the store) isn't a yolk egg -- it's still a chicken egg even though no chicken will ever come out of it.

In either case, the type of egg was not specified in the question so the aspect that is debatable (how the type of egg is determined) is also not relevant to the original question.


I can buy that.  So in theory, a chicken could hatch from an iguana egg, but an iguana could not lay a chicken egg.  Works for me.  :)


The real answer you're looking for is that they developed together. The error in the question is assumingthat one fo them HAD to come first, which isn't true.

4th July 2009, 12:56pm
#38
by kmisho
Richmond, Virginia United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 12
87654321 wrote:

the half assed scientists posting are obssessing over the chicken point and are unable to answer the question of who laid the first egg.


just answered it

4th July 2009, 02:29pm
#39
by Beast719
LLANTRISANT Wales
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 491

If it was a male chicken then it definitely came first.  The egg probably didn't come at all.

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