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Thanks for the post PatzerLars. As I mentioned earlier, the 1st post ( & the Question ) were mainly " Tongue In Cheek ", after all many of us here like to have fun and therefore have the odd chuckle too lol.
I like to have fun, too. I am a child, didn't notice the avatar picture? And my IQ is about 90. (Wait, can I count up to 90 ? )
And "not understanding questions" is the best IQ test fail, isn't it ?
Well according to the birthday on your members page you are well past your childhood years lol. Also as stated earlier we cannot measure IQ over the internet so that is an open question, and IQ ratings have little to say in regards to the true value of a person.
Hey, no one told you to look at my members page, you should just look at the picture. lol There you see how dumb I am, forgot to hide my birthday .....
True about IQ and value of person. Personally I do care more about attitude. I don't support that IQ-hype at all.
Well if you had hidden your personal info, you would have come across as a very sneaky person lol. Often one can see the true character of a person here on the internet, and sometimes it can be a negative experience. On the other hand one can meet some very nice people on the internet as well.
Of course we could get deep into a discussion over IQ versus Talent. Let us say that a good IQ score is needed to be able to study higher math. Does that however mean that our math whizz could just take up Baseball and become a top level fast-ball pitcher such as Nolan Ryan was in his heyday ? Or then on the other hand could Nolan Ryan have become a top level Professor of Mathematics ? IMO, the answer is probably no in both examples.
I think "talent" is just a different form of intelligence not measured by IQ tests. You could have an IQ of 80 and still be a genious when it comes to other forms of intelligence that IQ doesn't measure.
Thanks for the post Browni3141, you make a very good point. I once worked with a fellow who had a near photographic memory for numbers and names which was very impressive. I on the other hand have a poor memory for things in the short term and need to write a lot of things down, but each one of us is different I guess.
Being good at chess is more than just IQ. There are certain dynamics involved: The worth of the pieces, the roles they are to play in the game, certain dynamics of the game (center control, rapid development, coordination of pieces, mobility); I have an above average IQ (ranging from 135-160, depending on who administered the test, when, and under what circumstances, my mental and physical health and ability to concentrate at the time, blah blah blah IQ tests be ******, they are as innacurate as polygraphs imho); yet I still only have a rating of under 1100. I don't think that IQ is as much a factor in being good at Chess as:
I took a look at your profile. You have a rating of over 1700!! What do you mean, "sucks at chess!?" Sheesh!
300 sucks to an 800 sucks to a 1300 sucks to a 1700 sucks to a 2200 sucks to a 2600 sucks to a 3000.
Thanks for the recent posts. One question that comes up often is what does an approved IQ test measure ( besides the ability to memorize items ) ? On the other hand if every one of us has a different talent or ability how can we test people to ensure that these talents or abilities are discovered ?
What are the IQ,s of computers
Artificial ones, i guess.
Good point PatzerLars. People who have been around for a while such as myself tend to look at Computers merely as souped-up calcularors ( souped way up of course ). When we have seen these Super-GM vs Computer matches we assume that the Computer is " calculating " the best moves based on the info that comes from having a couple of million Chess games stored in it's memory. So we come back to the memory issue again ( are IQ tests mainly checking memory capacity ? ).
Well, I'm stupid enough to actually believe in IQ tests! And judging from my last game, I suck at chess too.
I actually think I have the relationship between chess and intelligence pretty much solved. did a bit of research. I think anyone with an iq of 100 and above can reach expert or master level with enough practice (FIDE~2000-2200 ratings), if a person obtains a FIDE rating of around 2400 and above, then they possess unusually high spatial reasoning/analytical intelligence (as well as the ability to "chunk" patterns into their long term memory) people who are 2550 and above FIDE (top 500 in the world currently) possess genius or near genius spatial reasoning and analytical intelligence (as well as "pattern chunking powers") although it's possible that an assortment of x factors can be the reason why someone is 2400 and not 2550 though (family, life, other career etc).
also 100 is considered average iq, 95% (I think? if not exactly 95%, it's the majority) of the populace falls somewhere within 2 SDs, which means 2.5% have iqs of 140 and above and 60 and below. just to give people some perspective. if these numbers aren't exactly technically right they are real real real freaking close. this is from memory of something I looked at at some point. so for anyone claiming to be a true genius(iq 160? and above)..and if anyone is claiming you are a mentally retarded(iq 50? and below)...probably not actually true.
I realize people are just trying entertain themselves with this post etc.
but for anyone who is actually curious about the relationship between intelligence and chess playing ability, I think this is right or nearly right. exact numbers could probably be argued about somewhat but not much.
for anyone who is actually curious about the relationship between intelligence and chess playing ability, I think this is right or nearly right. exact numbers could probably be argued about somewhat but not much.
I actually think I have the relationship between chess and intelligence pretty much solved. did a bit of research. I think anyone with an iq of 100 and above can reach expert or master level with enough practice
Stop chewing on those Coca leaves. You'll be a better man for it.
That reminds me, I used to like Coca Cola. Oh yeah it was Rye and Coke, don't seem to remember much from those days.
Rum and Coke works its magic too.
Thanks for the research. That was interesting.
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