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Who will win the 2013 world championship? Anand or Carlsen?

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Rational_Optimist
Insanistis wrote:
tesla1 wrote:
Insanistis wrote:
WalangAlam wrote:

The format is match play. Something that Carlsen has avoided literally like the Fide World Cup starting at the quarter finals and the Fide Candidate Matches old format. However he will probably settle after 3 games. Carlsen is prepared to draw all the games and decide it in the rapids. He has been active in the last 3 years in the blitz and rapids World championships! Experience will indeed be a factor favoring Anand but i believe the pressure playing in his hometown would also affect him. If the games will be decided in the endgame i believe Anand will have the upperhand, infact i believe that would be one of his strategies! 

Thinking Anand could outclass Carlsen in the endgame :')

i dont think carlsen is such an outstanding endgame player.

he has recently lost to ivanchuk,wang and caruana by making decisive mistakes in endgames.

Your wrong assumptions says it all.

look at your posts.you have no clue what means a discussion.

varelse1

Maybe, IF Anand manages to defeat Carlsen, he will finally be ready to challenge Chess.com members in Votechess.

Maybe.

adarsh678
# Name   Rating +/−   Games FIDE Age
1   Carlsen Norway 2862.0 0.0   0 22 (30.11.1990)
2   Aronian Armenia 2813.0 0.0   0 30 (06.10.1982)
3   Caruana Italy 2796.0 0.0   0 20 (30.07.1992)
4  1 Grischuk Russia 2785.2 +5.2 11 29 (31.10.1983)
5  1 Kramnik Russia 2784.0 0.0   0 38 (25.06.1975)
6  1 Nakamura United-States 2775.0 0.0   0 25 (09.12.1987)
7  1 Anand India 2775.0 0.0   0 43 (11.12.1969)
8  4 Mamedyarov Azerbaijan 2774.5 +13.5 11 28 (12.04.1985)
9  3 Karjakin Russia 2772.0 −4.0 11 23 (12.01.1990)
10   Topalov Bulgaria 2769.3 +2.3 11 38 (15.03.1975)
11  2 Gelfand Israel 2764.4 −8.6 11 45 (24.06.1968)
12  1 Dominguez Cuba 2757.0 0.0   0 29 (23.09.1983)
13  1 Ponomariov Ukraine 2756.0 0.0   0 29 (11.10.1983)
14  1 Wang Hao China 2746.8 −5.2 11 23 (04.08.1989)
15  1 Svidler Russia 2746.0 0.0   0 37 (17.06.1976)
16  2 Leko Hungary 2744.4 +7.4 11 33 (08.09.1979)
17  6 Kamsky United-States 2741.0 −22.0 11 39 (02.06.1974)
18  1 Adams England 2740.0 0.0   0 41 (17.11.1971)
19   Morozevich Russia 2738.6 +2.6 11 36 (18.07.1977)
20   Giri Netherlands 2736.9 +2.9 11 19 (28.06.1994)
21  2 Radjabov Azerbaijan 2733.0 0.0   0 26 (12.03.1987)
22   Ivanchuk Ukraine 2731.2 −1.8 11 44 (18.03.1969)
23  4 Nepomniachtchi Russia 2723.0 +6.0 9 23 (14.07.1990)
24  8 Jakovenko Russia 2721.5 +8.5 17 30 (28.06.1983)
25   Korobov Ukraine 2720.0 0.0   0 28 (25.06.1985)
26  5 Vitiugov Russia 2719.3 −14.7 9 26 (04.02.1987)
27  1 Vachier-Lagrave France 2719.0 0.0   0 22 (21.10.1990)
28  2 Ding Liren China 2718.4 +4.4 10 20 (24.10.1992)
29  5 Andreikin Russia 2715.5 −11.5 9 23 (05.02.1990)
30  2 Navara Czech-Republic 2714.6 −0.4 7 28 (27.03.1985)
31  2 Bacrot France 2714.0 0.0   0 30 (22.01.1983)
32  1 Alekseev Russia 2712.9 −1.1 17 27 (28.11.1985)
33  10 Wang Yue China 2712.7 +7.7 11 26 (31.03.1987)
34   Naiditsch Germany 2710.0 0.0   0 27 (25.10.1985)
35  3 So Philippines 2709.6 +1.6 9 19 (09.10.1993)
36  1 Areshchenko Ukraine 2709.0 0.0   0 27 (15.06.1986)
37  1 Malakhov Russia 2708.9 −0.1 1 32 (27.11.1980)
38  1 Fressinet France 2708.0 0.0   0 31 (01.11.1981)
39  2 Almasi Hungary 2707.0 0.0   0 36 (29.08.1976)
40  3 Tomashevsky Russia 2706.3 −2.7 9 26 (01.07.1987)
41  1 Vallejo Spain 2706.0 0.0   0 30 (21.08.1982)
42  2 Eljanov Ukraine 2702.0 0.0   0 30 (10.05.1983)
43  10 Le Quang Liem Vietnam 2701.6 −10.4 7 22 (13.03.1991)
44  1 Van Wely Netherlands 2701.0 0.0   0 40 (07.10.1972)
45  1 Wojtaszek Poland 2701.0 0.0   0 26 (13.01.1987)
Donald_Lee

I am a Norwegian American and would love to see Carlsen win.

However I don't think he will. It will be very close but Anand will handle the pressure better and the overall experience advantage he has will win the day.

Either way it goes chess will have an honorable champion.

Good luck to them both!

strngdrvnthng

Scary version? I don't think Magnus has hit his peak yet. I still think it will be close but time will tell.

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Carleson is already champ in my book.  The entire point of being champion is being the best in that particular thing.  When world number 1 and "champion" are segregating like this something is wrong with the rating system.  According to the ratings there are six people better than the so-called "champ".  Aronian and Carlson are even significantly higher, and even Grischuk is because 10 points is a lot up there. 

fabelhaft
ScorpionPackAttack wrote:

When world number 1 and "champion" are segregating like this something is wrong with the rating system.

Why is something wrong with the rating system? It is based on results, and Anand's results the last years have been much worse than Carlsen's.

Cidragon

when they play?

StrategicPlay

Carlsen, no doubt. 

varelse1
Cidragon wrote:

when they play?

November, I think

varelse1

Anand cannot even beat a couple patzers playing Votechess on Chess.com. What chance does he think he has against Magnus Carlsen??

catfishcore

Yall are in for the shock of your life. Anand has been focusing on this ever since the last Championship match. He will dominate. 

Senator-Blutarsky

Carlsen may retire him, nyuk nyuk nyuk.

karthik1109

Cidragon wrote:

when they play?

World Chess Championship Match

Event Date From : 06 - Nov - 2013

To : 26 - Nov - 2013

Event

Status Confirmed

Event

Location Chennai, Tamil Nadu,

India

I am happy that this time it is conducted in my home town Chennai I think if I am lucky I may get a chance to see them.....

VicB
varelse1 wrote:

Anand cannot even beat a couple patzers playing Votechess on Chess.com. What chance does he think he has against Magnus Carlsen??

 Your nastiness regarding Anand is getting old. It's one thing to root for another player, it's an entirely different matter when you have nothing but nasty criticsm of a player that could destroy you playing blind folded. He did play a 'patzer' recently in Blitz - a FIDE 2100 with Anand having 2 minutes and the FIDE player having 5 minutes. Anand checkmated him in the first game using 8 seconds on his clock and in the 2nd when he ended up with more time than he started with (2 sec increment).

--Vic.

maheshroks

anand ftw! 

Radical_Drift
VicB wrote:
varelse1 wrote:

Anand cannot even beat a couple patzers playing Votechess on Chess.com. What chance does he think he has against Magnus Carlsen??

 Your nastiness regarding Anand is getting old. It's one thing to root for another player, it's an entirely different matter when you have nothing but nasty criticsm of a player that could destroy you playing blind folded. He did play a 'patzer' recently in Blitz - a FIDE 2100 with Anand having 2 minutes and the FIDE player having 5 minutes. Anand checkmated him in the first game using 8 seconds on his clock and in the 2nd when he ended up with more time than he started with (2 sec increment).

--Vic.

It's true. This guy does seem to go out of his way to bad-mouth Anand. I think this happens because none of us have any real idea of how good these top GM's are. Something similar happens with the previous world champions. People stereotype Capablanca and Petrosian as "boring" and not very good at tactics since they didn't play like Alekhine, Tal, or Kasparov. Of course, that's not the criticism directed at Anand, but people think just because he's old(er), he doesn't stand a chance. His tournnament record lately hasn't helped him much either, but he's certainly one of the most naturally talented chess players of all time. He's had a few missteps, but this is not reflective of his strength in matchplay and he still stands a chance against the 22-year old wunderkind. I believe Carlsen will be the winner, but Anand has very real chances of retaining the title. He may not be the Anand of say 1997-2008, but he's still Anand.

Drakodan

I'm just not entirely sure how people can keep coming back to, "Anand has superior opening preparation on his side!". You DO realise that Carlsen might be the most difficult opponent on the planet to prepare against, right? He plays any and all openings, and is likely to get out of mainline theory quickly even in the most popular openings. That's the whole point of his game, and it's certainly one that I expect him to use against an opponent who is hoping to obtain an edge using opening theory.

 

Certainly, it will shake up the world of Chess if Carlsen wins the title and does so by completely sidestepping opening theory.

strngdrvnthng

That's the thing I most like about Carlsen's play...he makes the game more about finding ideas over the board and less about home preparation. I still believe it will be a hard fought battle and I'm looking forward to some great games worthy of a world championship struggle. Time will tell.

DelayedResponse

To those of you who are criticizing Anand, (don't know who I want to win, I'm kind of on both sides) ever thought of the fact that Anand could be reading this right now? I mean, he could be a chess.com member (I'm not sure).