Why are new players addicted to openings?

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26th October 2008, 04:12am
#1
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 523

In almost every chess forum we see beginners asking things like "What's the best opening?" or "What's a good book on openings?".

 

Why do beginners have this obsession with openings while they mostly loose games because of lack of middelgame understanding?

26th October 2008, 04:26am
#2
by SonofPearl
Wales
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 6245
GatoNegro wrote:

In almost every chess forum we see beginners asking things like "What's the best opening?" or "What's a good book on openings?".

 

Why do beginners have this obsession with openings while they mostly loose games because of lack of middelgame understanding?


I've often wondered that myself, and I think it's due partly to a short-sighted need for 'tricks' to help one win quickly, instead of the long term grind of study and practice. 

I think beginners are often impressed by the (sometimes evocative) names of the openings as well!

26th October 2008, 04:35am
#3
by dee_from_ott
Canada
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 64

Openings are half the battle.  Your position in middle game is dependent on the opening.

My rating went up over 100 points after I learned openings. 

Knowing defence (black opening) by heart leaves you in middle game positions you can't calculate far enough ahead.

 

there's actually a reason black has limited book choices for defense.  Chess is about reaction.

26th October 2008, 04:38am
#4
by broze
Bath England
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 743

I always get pwned in blitz chess because I have no opening knowledge.

26th October 2008, 04:42am
#5
by Lumberjacco
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 191

Because if they don't know there openings they will allready have lost in the opening, before ever reaching the middlegame.

Beginners find out they will get a bad position after the opening so the y concetrate thier efforts first on what comes first.

 

Same reason why al players use more time on the earlier moves in the game than the later moves before time control. Because it makes no sense still having a lot of time but a lost position.

26th October 2008, 04:44am
#6
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 523

@ SonofPearl,

I think you'r right.

@ dee_from_ott,

In my opinion your rating will grow even more by learning basic chess strategy and tactics. By understanding this two areas first learning openings will make much more sense because you will understand more easily the ideas behind the opening moves instead of memorizing them without truely understanding why this moves are good.

26th October 2008, 04:45am
#7
by stanhope13
The Celestial City or Armageddon United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 365

never play blitz, no point, unusual openings, well everybody looks for an edge, you know"the secret weapon"that will vastly improve their game overnight.look at the history of the grunfeld.

26th October 2008, 04:45am
#8
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 523

@ Lmberjacco, that is probably why I beat you mostly in the endgame when we play at the club. Wink

26th October 2008, 04:50am
#9
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 523

The only things you need to know about openings being a beginner are the basic principles of openings. Like the importance of developing pieces, the importance of occupying the center, the importance of bringing your king in safety by castling etc.

26th October 2008, 04:52am
#10
by dsarkar
United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 7713

Openings are appealing to new players because:

1) they appear the easiest part of chess to learn.

2) new players think they have to start at the beginning, right?

3) new players do not know any better.

4) in order to play a game of chess the first thing that comes to mind is how to begin.

Only when they come across a good book or a good teacher or a good advisor that they realise they should start their learning path in the reverse order.

26th October 2008, 05:08am
#11
by northsea
Hummelsta Sweden
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 140

1)most of new players are getting worse positon in the opening and want to improve

2)some players think it's cool to say "i play a line favoured by Kasparvov/Karpov/Tal/Fischer"

26th October 2008, 05:17am
#12
by hicetnunc
Neuilly-sur-Seine France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 3309
GatoNegro wrote:

In almost every chess forum we see beginners asking things like "What's the best opening?" or "What's a good book on openings?".

 

Why do beginners have this obsession with openings while they mostly loose games because of lack of middelgame understanding?


I guess you must start somewhere Wink

26th October 2008, 05:27am
#13
by gobo
Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 107

As a new player, it is immensely frustrating to play games here and not know something about openings. You are very likely to run into someone who uses some kind of "trick" opening that can lead you to make mistakes that will only become apparent further along the game.

If you just start playing and not know something about openings, then you are very likely to come out of the opening badly, and in essence already have lost the game.

26th October 2008, 05:32am
#14
by Puydtje
Merelbeke Belgium
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 330
gobo wrote:

As a new player, it is immensely frustrating to play games here and not know something about openings. You are very likely to run into someone who uses some kind of "trick" opening that can lead you to make mistakes that will only become apparent further along the game.

If you just start playing and not know something about openings, then you are very likely to come out of the opening badly, and in essence already have lost the game.


I was in that situation. But after playing a couple of games you learn what is a good opening.

26th October 2008, 05:40am
#15
by infinitum
Male' Maldives
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 196

@ GatoNegro

To answer your question and the points you highlighted

You do know that the openings play a huge role in the whole game. You can't criticize beginners by saying that they wanna learn openings and suck at middle game play. They can't imporove all factors immediately. Remember that they are beginners.

 

I feel that it's alright if they focus on the openings first, then move on to other parts. It's good to learn in such a logical order

26th October 2008, 05:40am
#16
by Lumberjacco
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 191
sc18 wrote:

Any player who is strong in middlegame as well as endgame has to come out clean in the opening phase .If his opening is poor, how he can be suuccessful in the middlegame phase .Atleast he should be familiar with the opening traps for the opening he is playing.


The issue is that beginners aren't strong in the middlegame or endgame.

26th October 2008, 05:43am
#17
by promotedpawn
Somewhere out there Great Britain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 768
SonofPearl wrote:
GatoNegro wrote:

In almost every chess forum we see beginners asking things like "What's the best opening?" or "What's a good book on openings?".

 

Why do beginners have this obsession with openings while they mostly loose games because of lack of middelgame understanding?


I've often wondered that myself, and I think it's due partly to a short-sighted need for 'tricks' to help one win quickly, instead of the long term grind of study and practice. 

I think beginners are often impressed by the (sometimes evocative) names of the opening as well!


Alot of beginner's games are decided in the opening through blunders, traps or mates

26th October 2008, 05:56am
#18
by GatoNegro
Utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 523
infinitum wrote:

@ GatoNegro

To answer your question and the points you highlighted

You do know that the openings play a huge role in the whole game. You can't criticize beginners by saying that they wanna learn openings and suck at middle game play. They can't imporove all factors immediately. Remember that they are beginners.

 

I feel that it's alright if they focus on the openings first, then move on to other parts. It's good to learn in such a logical order


This is actually all about what the best way is to learn chess for beginners. In general terms you are right in saying that the opening has big influence in the rest of the game. The problem is often that this leads to the misconception that beginners should learn opening theory first. I think it's a mistake. As I said before, knowing the general opening principles is for a beginner enough to play and get experience. If with this they focus on basic strategy and tactics they improve faster.

I've known many beginners who have learned opening variations by heart. At the moment that I choose a move that "was not in the book!" they loose track and choose the wrong strategy because they don't understand the ideas behind the opening.

26th October 2008, 06:04am
#19
by jeb083079
Quezon City Philippines
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 15

good openings leads to a good mid-game which then leads to good endings Laughing

26th October 2008, 06:19am
#20
by Puydtje
Merelbeke Belgium
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 330
WAYNE1984 wrote:

a good opening leads to good middlegame and endgame,there going to be bad at middle game because they get in bad postion from start


That is correct. When you do a bad move in the beginning it is very difficult to win the game at the end.

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