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Why do Americans like Bobby Fischer?


  • 12 months ago · #781

    ClavierCavalier

    I knew he said bad crap about the US, but I just wasn't sure where or how he got the message out.  I thought he was living in a cave some where.  Then again, that never stopped Osama Bin Ladin...

    Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing something about him being arrested in Japan for passport reasons.

  • 12 months ago · #782

    chopwood

    The passport issue involved the US State Department, who wanted to arrest him for playing chess for money in Yugoslavia (?), which was under sanction by the US. Apart from his other crimes, I consider this a political crime, which, as a chessplayer, puts me squarely on Fischer's side. 

  • 12 months ago · #783

    varelse1

    chopwood wrote:

    The passport issue involved the US State Department, who wanted to arrest him for playing chess for money in Yugoslavia (?), which was under sanction by the US. Apart from his other crimes, I consider this a political crime, which, as a chessplayer, puts me squarely on Fischer's side. 

    The funny nthing was, he had gotten away with it. If he had just kept his mouth shut, (and stayed out of the US) he was fine. The State Department wan't going after him.

    But then he had to start shooting his moth off on 9-11. And he ceased to be so untouchable as he was before. Then the State Department started rattling it's sabre.

    He brought that whole arrest in Japan on himself.

  • 12 months ago · #784

    varelse1

    ClavierCavalier wrote:

    I knew he said bad crap about the US, but I just wasn't sure where or how he got the message out.  I thought he was living in a cave some where.  Then again, that never stopped Osama Bin Ladin...

    Now that you mention it, I do remember seeing something about him being arrested in Japan for passport reasons.

    Now that you bring it up, he was also in the paper a whole lot in '92. During his match with Spassky. I still have many of the clippings.

  • 12 months ago · #785

    chopwood

    He hadn't exactly "gotten away with it." His US passport was revoked. He couldn't go anywhere that had a mutual extradition treaty with the US. The US State Department stood readgy to bring him back and try him for violating sanctions- meaning he would have to forfeit all the money he won, serve time in prison, and lose his right to leave the US ever again. He became a man without a country. I think that's harsh- our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

  • 12 months ago · #786

    AndyClifton

    As opposed to his (heehee!)

  • 12 months ago · #787

    Ubik42

    chopwood wrote:

    He hadn't exactly "gotten away with it." His US passport was revoked. He couldn't go anywhere that had a mutual extradition treaty with the US. The US State Department stood readgy to bring him back and try him for violating sanctions- meaning he would have to forfeit all the money he won, serve time in prison, and lose his right to leave the US ever again. He became a man without a country. I think that's harsh- our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

    He should consider himself lucky, the usual penalty for violating sactions is a B-52 bombing run.

  • 12 months ago · #788

    netzach

    Unless you're from Langley.

  • 12 months ago · #789

    chopwood

    I don't believe the US has any right to keep a world-class grandmaster from playing anywhere he wants to.

  • 12 months ago · #790

    AndyClifton

    Even if he was a giant flaming nutball.

  • 12 months ago · #791

    FirebrandX

    chopwood wrote:

    our country has a terrible attitude, in my opinion.

    So do you. Taking the side of somebody the cheered the death of thousands makes you a real piece of shit in my book. I'd like you to face the families of those that lost loved ones in those terror attacks, play a recording of Fischer cheering the deaths, and then tell those families you stand up to be counted with Fischer. If I were there, it would be very hard for me to refrain from breaking my foot off in your douchebag ass.

  • 12 months ago · #792

    Inconnux

    AndyClifton wrote:

    Even if he was a giant flaming nutball.

    giant RACIST flaming nutball :)

  • 12 months ago · #793

    netzach

    Some of you posting now sound way more bonkers than he ever was.

  • 12 months ago · #794

    Inconnux

    netzach wrote:

    Some of you posting now sound way more bonkers than he ever was.

    really, I have yet to read anyone on here cheering the destruction and deaths of thousands of people and then blaming on a Jewish conspiracy. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

  • 12 months ago · #795

    netzach

    That's because this is a chess website not a conspiracy monster-raving-loony one.


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