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Why do Americans like Bobby Fischer?


  • 10 months ago · #421

    bigpoison

    Claiming the world champ lost to an inferior player because of "psychology" is a bit disrespectful.

    You're right, though.  You are certainly not the first individual to posit that absurd argument.

  • 10 months ago · #422

    chesspooljuly13

    If Spassky were only slightly better than Fischer at the time, it certainly could have been enough to tip the scales. Read Frank Brady's account of what transpired between the end of game 1 and Spassky's opening move in game 3. It's in Brady's biography of Fischer called "Profile of a Prodigy." A fantastic book. That said, it's also alleged Spassky didn't take the match as seriously as he should have, so that's a factor too. Kinda silly to label something "absurd" when it's possible but beyond knowing for certain

  • 10 months ago · #423

    ChefBruce

    NimzoRoy wrote:

     However, now a days his play/tactical shots don't really work at the highest level.redchessman

    OH really? Is there some citation for this bit of preposterous hogwash besides your sayso?

    According to Kasparov, the chess played in '92 between Spassky and Fischer was behind the times and did not equal the standards required today to be of world championship caliber.

    This was no doubt due to Fischer's inactivity and lack of competition....you have to stay up with the times. 

     

  • 10 months ago · #424

    chesspooljuly13

    As I recall there were two games that GMs thought were very good, but in a match of that length, two is a small percentage

  • 10 months ago · #425

    bigpoison

    Yeah, they were a couple of bums all right.  Couldn't play good chess to save their asses.

  • 10 months ago · #426

    chesspooljuly13

    Besides you can't take a GM well past his/her prime and expect them to beat or be competitive with GMs in their prime. That only worked in the movie "Rocky Balboa."

  • 10 months ago · #427

    chesspooljuly13

    If Fischer in 1992 had played Kasparov instead of Spassky, he would have been crushed. Spassky was ranked around 100th in the world when he played Fischer in '92

  • 10 months ago · #428

    bigpoison

    Yeah, so?  If Kaspy had played Fischer in '72, Kaspy would have been crushed. 

    La-ti-da.

  • 10 months ago · #429

    chesspooljuly13

    How old was Kasparov in '72? He did a good job analyzing the Fischer/Botvinnik game in '62 according to Botvinnik himself

  • 10 months ago · #430

    chesspooljuly13

    Kasparov found a draw in that game that both Fischer and Botvinnik had overlooked

  • 10 months ago · #431

    gregkurrell

    Even though it is debateable whether Fischer was the best ever, I think there is no debate he was the most exciting/interesting player.  As a person, I could overlook the eccentricity of the Fischer of the 60's to 80's.  Later he become really unlikeable.  

  • 10 months ago · #432

    onthehouse

    http://nofreepasses.com/?p=250

    Look here to view a tribute to Bobby Fischers' contribution to the chess world and to all of humanity on the planet. A bit over the top but insightful none the less. An interesting read if nothing else.  Smile

  • 10 months ago · #433

    shengyi

    Interesting...

  • 10 months ago · #434

    LearningTigran

    Having watched the documentary on Bobby Fischer I believe he was mentally ill im someway, either way he lived quite a sad life and I feel sorry for him.

  • 10 months ago · #435

    EternalChess

    Ah, good to see this thread still going! Thought it died a month back.

  • 10 months ago · #436

    AndyClifton

    Here_Is_Plenty wrote:

    can you though doubt that he was a total asset to chessplayers everywhere?

    Yes I can (and I do).

  • 10 months ago · #437

    chesspooljuly13

    No one should feel sorry for someone who was the best in the world at one point in his life. That accomplishment alone deserves respect. I wish he had played Karpov but Fischer made enormous contributions to chess on and off the board

  • 10 months ago · #438

    AndyClifton

    chesspooljuly13 wrote:

    No one should feel sorry for someone who was the best in the world at one point in his life.

    How about OJ?

  • 10 months ago · #439

    chesspooljuly13

    Are you suggesting people should feel sorry for OJ? I don't feel sorry for him nor do I feel sorry for Fischer

  • 10 months ago · #440

    AndyClifton

    I don't think it would be too tough to come up with someone who was "best in the world at one point" who subsequently became pitiable...that was my point.  Nor do I think that being best in the world at something makes you immune from such concerns.


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