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Why do so few players play 30 min live chess?


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #81

    varelse1

    LOL

    Reminds me of one opponent I had, played normally. I was ahead I think a queen and a Knight. But my opponent wanted to play it to the bitter end. It was mate-in-1, any beginner could see it. My opponent stops moving, with 12 minutes left on his clock. So i started surfing the web, eventually came back. When my opponent had one second left, he moved! Shaking my head, I tried not to smile as I mated him.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #82

    LuigitheUnbelievable

    I don't play 30 min chess because my attention span doesn't last that long, and sometimes its just too frustrating waiting long minutes for your opponent to make a move which seems a pangfully obvious one to make.

    But it's surprising that more players don't play 30 min, seeing as so many times I've seen remarks that a bullet/blitz victory was scarcely deserved because it was only the short clock which "saved" the king + pawn vs king + two rooks, bishop, knight and queen game.

    Seems to require explanation to some - read the scoreboard. 30 min games are more suited to players who don't appreciate that sometimes, particularly in bullet, an extra ten seconds can be worth a queen.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #83

    chasm1995

    I like 30 minute chess because even though I don't usualy use more than ten minutes, I have the extra time when I need it and players very seldomly waste your time and let their clock run.  Since I have started playing 30 minute games, only one person tried to waste my time and I neded up winning that game becaue the other person ran into time trouble in the end.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #84

    varelse1

    chasm1995 wrote:

    I like 30 minute chess because even though I don't usualy use more than ten minutes, I have the extra time when I need it and players very seldomly waste your time and let their clock run.  Since I have started playing 30 minute games, only one person tried to waste my time and I neded up winning that game becaue the other person ran into time trouble in the end.

    That's why I prefer to get my time through incement. If some troll wants me to sit there for a long stretches of time, he needs to keep moving.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #85

    Threebeast

    I have to agree the the slower the time control the more enjoy for me. 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #86

    Irontiger

    Threebeast wrote:

    I have to agree the the slower the time control the more enjoy for me. 

    Hmmm.... For sure, that's only up to a certain point.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #87

    Threebeast

    My problem I cannot decide on 45 45 o5 60 5 or 60 10.. I am leaning toward 45 45 on fics..

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #88

    Krestez

    I play almost exclusively 60|0 games here, when I want to play a serious game. 30|0 seems too little time to me, especially when you're playing a tougher opponent and you need to ponder your moves carefully.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #89

    SirIvanhoe

    @Threebeast - You can play G/45+45 tournaments on all three of the major chess servers on the internet, including Chess.com. Please see my comment above about play at the Dan Heisman Learning Center.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #90

    Threebeast

    @ SirIvanhoe thanks for the info  but until this site support DGT e board. I will only be playing turn-based for now.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #91

    SirIvanhoe

    @Threebeast - Understood. I sure wish I had a DGT board! Cool

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #92

    DrCheckevertim

    I made a thread about this a while back. I wish 45min games were a default option on standard chess. Hey, if you don't want to play, that's understandable, you don't have to... but why isn't it an option for those who want to?

    I have been trying to play 15 min games, but it's just not enough time for me. Most my losses are from a blunder that I wouldn't make in longer time controls. Or, I ran out of time in a winning position. Undecided I would play OTB more often but it's just not as convenient.Frown


    The problem with 30min standard is, it's still too short for me. It at least needs to be 30|30 or something. I don't like getting to a winning endgame (but it still requires a little thought) and losing on time.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #93

    dreamwitch

    I am a lower-rated player. I started out playing live 30 minute games. I quit playing live because my opponents would time out or abandon games without the courtesy to resign. I came back to chess after many years away from the game. I play for the mental challenge and love of the game. In the face of such poor sportsmanship, I have given up live play altogether in favor of online play only. Yes, Dr.JamesB it seems to be a common theme. Perhaps you do not experience it because you are a higher-rated player. I agree that live chess is a better way to improve ( as others have said). However, even I have had trouble getting a live game with players on my own lower level. A troll by any other name is still a troll. I respect the game and my opponents. I have chosen to play online rather than waste any more time waiting for an opponent to time out.  I get more games that way.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #94

    Cidragon

    for now i just play 10 minutes games because where i live there is just tournament with 20|0 time control so 10|0 is fine.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #95

    skakmadurinn

    Play in real otb tournaments with the time limit 90|30 if you want to get better in chess. That's better than playing 30 minutes games online.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #96

    dzikus

    skakmadurinn napisał:

    Play in real otb tournaments with the time limit 90|30 if you want to get better in chess. That's better than playing 30 minutes games online.

    I absolutely agree, OTB chess is better for improving your skills because it offers better environment for playing: no family interrupting you, no TV or  lough music playing in another room.

    You have to focus more on playing: record the game yourself using a pen and paper score, watch for checks (if you try to make illegal move your opponent can get additional 3 minutes on his clock if he claims that), beware of touching the pieces or you will be forced to make a move with one you did not intend, watch the clock (it does not show tenths of seconds when you are low on time), move number (if the time control is 90|30 for 40 moves and 30|30 for the rest of game or similar), number of times a position appeared (if you claim the draw on threefold repetition you will be required to show that in the score) and so on.

    I find playing OTB easier however. The greatest benefit is you can see your opponent and sometimes it is obvious which move s/he is going to play (many people move their hands towards the piece they intend to move, then choose to think for a bit - but you can start pondering on the moves of that piece at that time and most often your opponent will make that move anyway; in the other cases you watch your opponent's eyes movments to determine which areas of the board s/he is interested in - this also decreases the number of moves to ponder on).

    The last benefit is post-mortem with your opponent. It is definitely much more comfortable OTB than online.

    Just some thoughts from a dinosaure that played OTB at the times the games would be adjourned after making 40 moves Undecided

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #97

    xased44

    becides most people do 1:00

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #98

    ollave

    I notice that 15 minutes is a popular time control for lower level players (which includes me, on a good day!) at my local club.

    Possibly because we run a tournament with that time control each week, possibly because they're used to it? Myself I prefer longer time controls, but seldom play live on chess.com. Maybe I should do so more often.

    Anyway, count me as one of those who'd like to see 30 minutes become more common; it's about as much as I could afford most evenings (if both players use their time it's an hour; 45 minutes or 60 minutes is a full evening of chess).

    I suppose if I want to see more 30 minute games I should play some. :) But this afternoon I've some turn based games to put some analysis into, so not just now.

    (For anyone who cares: I'm in Eastern Australia: GMT+10. So I suspect few to none of you will find we share convenient times to play, but if you think we might drop me a line, by all means.)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #99

    orangeishblue

    Everyone dances around the real issue. Stronger players don't play 30 0 because of cheating and weak opponents. So the people that tend to play longer time controls are weaker players that the stronger ones don't need to play. I have played players that are dead lost in the first couple of minutes and it is just a complete waste of my time to watch my opponent thrash around like a dying fish for another 20 minutes till he drops a queen and resigns.

    The cheating issue is an opponent playing like rybka after blundering in the opening. 30 0 just gives one too much time to cheat on a move or even a series of moves. And that be the facts.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #100

    ollave

    Just read the whole thread: looks like there are some groups that may help the original poster; otherwise, a final (from me Smile) suggestion: perhaps the communities at other sites (such as ICC and FICS) may have gathered more people who like longer time controls.

    I trust chess.com won't be offended by the suggestion; nobody (and no site) can do everything "best".

    Now, off to look at those slow groups myself, and perhaps see if there's anyone in the live pool looking for a 30 minute game with a lowly player like me. Fortunately I'm over that claimed-magic 1400 rating, so we'll see.


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