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Wilbert_78

I love the tripple! But woohoo, heavy stuff! I also like to use it for cooking. Especially clams deserve a good beer to be cooked in! Highly recommended! (And Rochefort is great beer also btw! Excellent taste!)

learningthemoves

That beer made in monasteries sounds holy. 

Wilbert_78

Wait untill you taste it! Here is a bit of background about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer

Pat_Zerr
Wilbert_78 wrote:

I was born in the southern part of the Netherlands in a province called Limburg

Is it true that Limburger cheese is really smelly like was always portrayed in the Bugs Bunny cartoons?

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TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

My first endgame book was Fine's Basic Chess Endings since it was really thick (and therefore a great value), called a "masterpiece" on the back by Suzan Polgar and Pandolfini, and had the word basic on it, implying that one should start with it first.  I'd highly recommend it since Fine or Benko explain the principles behind the topic and illustrate exceptions at the end.  They also use mostly games from practical play although there are some compositions too, and many are annoyingly impractical (Benko is notorious for it). 

Sadly descriptive english notation makes the study really really slow for me Frown

TheGreatOogieBoogie
socialista wrote:
TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

My first endgame book was Fine's Basic Chess Endings since it was really thick (and therefore a great value), called a "masterpiece" on the back by Suzan Polgar and Pandolfini, and had the word basic on it, implying that one should start with it first.  I'd highly recommend it since Fine or Benko explain the principles behind the topic and illustrate exceptions at the end.  They also use mostly games from practical play although there are some compositions too, and many are annoyingly impractical (Benko is notorious for it). 

Sadly descriptive english notation makes the study really really slow for me 

The edition I bought is algebraic.  Descriptive notation is the only thing keeping me from buying Soltis' book on defense. 

Wilbert_78
N2UHC wrote:
Wilbert_78 wrote:

I was born in the southern part of the Netherlands in a province called Limburg

Is it true that Limburger cheese is really smelly like was always portrayed in the Bugs Bunny cartoons?

Yes it has a very strong odor of feet. However once you put it in your mouth the smell is gone and the taste is really soft. Eat on dark, sour bread and wash away with a good heavy beer. But it is true, the cheese has a nasty smell. The odor is even so strong that in tests, mosquito's liked the cheese just as much as real feet.

however, given the chance, you really should take a (small) bite. It tastes nothing like it smells. Very weird the first time.

infinitebrainpower

No proof against Ivanov so why ban him?

Irontiger
TheCardigansFan wrote:

Nobody's going to be arresting a chess player for cheating at chess even if they catch him red handed. 

From what I understand, crime is out of control in Eastern Europe and Russia.  They can't even effectively counter "real crime" so the chances of the police taking any real interest in Ivanov is zero.

I'm sure there are quite a few murder cases in the Bronx that go unsolved. Does it mean New York as a whole is a jungle where you can do whatever you please ?

Ivanov is not extremely (in)famous outside the chess universe, it's true, but if some TD is handing him to a police officer, with juicy chess-cheating first-time trial for the prosecutors afterwards, it's hard to refuse.

ProfessorProfesesen
Irontiger wrote:
TheCardigansFan wrote:

Nobody's going to be arresting a chess player for cheating at chess even if they catch him red handed. 

From what I understand, crime is out of control in Eastern Europe and Russia.  They can't even effectively counter "real crime" so the chances of the police taking any real interest in Ivanov is zero.

I'm sure there are quite a few murder cases in the Bronx that go unsolved. Does it mean New York as a whole is a jungle where you can do whatever you please ?

Ivanov is not extremely (in)famous outside the chess universe, it's true, but if some TD is handing him to a police officer, with juicy chess-cheating first-time trial for the prosecutors afterwards, it's hard to refuse.

how come you know so much?

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owltuna wrote:
infinitebrainpower wrote:

No proof against Ivanov so why ban him?

Excuse me, but the subject of the thread is beer and cheese.

Wrong, It´s about endgame books.

Irontiger
TheCardigansFan wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
TheCardigansFan wrote:

Nobody's going to be arresting a chess player for cheating at chess even if they catch him red handed. 

From what I understand, crime is out of control in Eastern Europe and Russia.  They can't even effectively counter "real crime" so the chances of the police taking any real interest in Ivanov is zero.

I'm sure there are quite a few murder cases in the Bronx that go unsolved. Does it mean New York as a whole is a jungle where you can do whatever you please ?

Ivanov is not extremely (in)famous outside the chess universe, it's true, but if some TD is handing him to a police officer, with juicy chess-cheating first-time trial for the prosecutors afterwards, it's hard to refuse.

What's so "juicy" about a chess cheating trial?  If that's the sort of thing you consider "juicy" then you must lead an extremely boring life.

It's juicy for a prosecutor, none has seen such a case in court since... well, since ever. Plus, the characters are for sure an interesting lot (chess players are seen as zoo animals by most people where I live and I suspect it's the same in the US and GB).

I cannot say I am personally thrilled.

As for the nationality stuff, it has no relevance.

Irontiger

Your personal attacks are irrelevant. You seem to have issues.

On topic : yeah, the statistic matchup is hard to understand for laymen, but that's why there are experts called in court too. Ballistics and forensics are hard too, but the jury takes the expert's explanation. And prosecution wouldn't have trouble finding some statistician to give the number talk.

thecentipede

This may have been bought up before, I havent read all the pages, but.......

if he didnt have any money to get home and had to be lent 50 euros, then he must have been relying heavily on winning some form of money for a top finish at the end of the tournament :D 

almost like he knew he was going to win :D

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Ivan Tetimov next to Borislav Ivanov

http://en.chessbase.com/post/fide-threatens-exclusion-of-bulgaria

The tournament that originated the problem:

http://es.chessbase.com/post/hasta-luego-benidorm

https://chess24.com/es/informate/noticias/trampas-en-benidorm

https://entrepeones.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/tetimov-retirado-del-aficionados-a-del-bali/

A previous stellar performance:

http://www.belchess.com/%CA%F0%E0%E9%ED%EE%20%EA%EB%E0%F1%E8%F0%E0%ED%E5.HTM

His FIDE profile:

http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=2908719

(he didn't get points for his Bali performance, he would have skyrocketed even more)

Quiksilverau

The future:

1. Engines which play like humans. Adjusting their moves to be only slightly better than their opponent.

2. Implanted communication technology.

For instance, the apple watch can tap the wearers wrist. It not hard to program an app to send base-8 taps to the wearer. Then an easy suffix to denote the piece, such as 1 = king, 2 = queen, 3 = rook, 4 = bishop, 5 = knight, 6 = pawn.