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why play 1 minute games


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    Walter0508

    most of the 1 min games i have played / observed seem to be won on time not by the better player but by the player who moves fastest am i wrong or right let me know what you think.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    waffllemaster

    Time is the most important thing in 1 minute chess, yes.  However the ratings aren't meaningless.  I've won games on time in 1 minute chess where I am clearly behind on the board, and sometimes my opponent may complain, but if the roles were reversed, and I had their position with only 20 seconds left, I would have won easily.

    So it's about the defensive and offensive patterns you have memorized.  My immediate impression of a setup that offers resistance was stronger than their immediate impression of how to convert their advantage (or their lack of impression, if they're reduced to shuffling pieces around).

    But to answer the question in your title, it's fun because you don't think :)  The sequence that immediately pops in your head (from years of experience you just have these series of moves as ideas) you don't have to check, or think of something better, you can just try it out.  Esp. when it's aggressive.  In a real game you may never go for this aggressive sequence, but it's a 1 minute game, it's not a serious investment in time or energy, just go for it and see what happens!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    Kens_Mom

    Waffle's completely right, which is why many players consider rapid time control games to be a variant from standard chess.  While I do not care either way, I find their view understandable because the clock was not initially a condition for a win, added primarily to prevent players from stalling a game indefinitely.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    adam35035

    teaches how to find the best move, quick and easy. need to know opening and closing, add me ill play u 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    Kruptnick

    When I first joined chess.com under another nickname, one member made me play 1 minute games and told me the mistakes I made unconsciously (both in standard and 1 minute time) everytime.

    I guess it can be useful if you know someone willing to do that everyday,you repeat the mistake in 1 minute games and they tell you it's wrong, so you end up not doing it in standard or 1 minute games anymore. You learn watching yourself, doing the mistake and being told about it faster, so next you think about not doing it...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    DaBigOne

    1 min chess is too fast unless you are superhuman, i dont play it because the games arent decided by good chess (most of the time), so i play 5 min. It gives time for good moves, and isnt too long, so the opponent stalls, or you are bored by the game

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    Kens_Mom

    Kruptnick wrote:

    When I first joined chess.com under another nickname, one member made me play 1 minute games and told me the mistakes I made unconsciously (both in standard and 1 minute time) everytime.

    I guess it can be useful if you know someone willing to do that everyday,you repeat the mistake in 1 minute games and they tell you it's wrong, so you end up not doing it in standard or 1 minute games anymore. You learn watching yourself, doing the mistake and being told about it faster, so next you think about not doing it...

    The issue with that is that most of the mistakes made in 1 min games are those that are caused by the time pressure, not by faulty thought process.  It's always good to review your own games for mistakes, but you should be looking over games with standard time controls or longer, certainly not bullet games.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    DaBigOne

    Actually, i find that people play faulty moves because of that, AND they are pressured by the threat of time trouble. They feel you can play almost anything, and win by the clock. 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    waffllemaster

    To the people that think it's just random shuffling of pieces, I thought of a good comparison I think.

    Maybe a good comparison is when someone is learning touch typing.  At first, you look at one letter at a time, and try to remember where it is on the keyboard.

    As you get better, less and less time/effort is needed to find that key, it's almost automatic.

    If you keep practicing, you can start to look at whole words, and the fingers are typing sets of letters (words) at a time.  The individual letters are found unconsciously, and you can spend your conscious thought on reading as you type... and yes you're reading and typing at the same time!

    Those that feel 1 minute chess is a bunch of random moves can't imagine evaluating a position so quickly.  For them, after each move, you have to struggle to find all the threats... is he attacking something?  Can I take his piece for free?  Is there a tactic?  But after a lot of practice you can do these basic assessments unconsciously... attacked squares are simply self evident... and you're using your conscious thought on the big picture... assessing what's happening positionally, or what needs to be done in the future.  You're noticing the basic threats and actually playing chess (planning for future tactics / endgames / etc) at the same time... much like touch typing finds individual letters automatically, while you read.

    Hope that example helps, I think it's a relatively good illustration.  Probably an even better one is site reading in music.  This is a better example because site reading would probably be a lot of fun for the melodies you produce while your fingers automatically hit notes.  In chess it's exciting because of the patterns/strategy you produce, while your mind automatically avoids basic blunders.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    gattaca

    waffllemaster wrote:

    Those that feel 1 minute chess is a bunch of random moves can't imagine evaluating a position so quickly.  For them, after each move, you have to struggle to find all the threats... is he attacking something?  Can I take his piece for free?  Is there a tactic?  But after a lot of practice you can do these basic assessments unconsciously... attacked squares are simply self evident... and you're using your conscious thought on the big picture... assessing what's happening positionally, or what needs to be done in the future.  You're noticing the basic threats and actually playing chess (planning for future tactics / endgames / etc) at the same time... much like touch typing finds individual letters automatically, while you read.

    Good comparison. "After a lot of practice you can do basic assessments unconsciously". Exactly why it's good to play bullet, many people fail to understand that.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    johnmusacha

    Yes, #335394862 brings up a valid distinction.  If indeed 1 minute chess is a chess variant, why not keep score and rating a bit differently?  Like instead of a standard win-loss-draw count, keep statistics on 1. win by checkmage, 2. win by time, 3. loss by checkmate, 4. loss by time, and 5. draw.  Resignations would count as checkmate for obvious reasons.  Maybe create a modified rating system where wins by checkmate will boost your discrete "1 minute" rating higher than a win on time.

    Also, is anyone still interested in under one minute games?  I think it would be cool to try a thirty second game, or even less time than that.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    Walter0508

    thanks guy's all great answer's ,I like the idea johnmusacha put about the scoring i think it would be a much fairer way to score these game's. cant say i am enjoying playing 1 min game's given that i am losing a lot more than i win but think that in the long run as most of you have said it can be beneficial to your over all game. 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    DEATHW1SH

    IMHO they are a waste of time for real chess players....chess is an art..a science......noughts and crosses was designed for 1 minute chessers ;-)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    linuxblue1

    To quote Tasmyn Archer:

    "I wonder why..."

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    Walter0508

    i have given up on them now only play live 3o min' tournament and online normal games in other word's 1 min games are just meaning less and dont help you improve as a chess player 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    DEATHW1SH

    I concur Walt......30 minute matches are more realistic....but i find them tough....i like to think about movee .. days if necessary...so i make the right move ..

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    Walter0508

    i am looking to become a better chess player not to win meaningless victory's on time 


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