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Woman world championships and titles - aren't they an insult ?


  • 10 months ago · Quote · #221

    Sunshiny

    bean_Fischer wrote:
    Sunshiny wrote:
    PhoenixTTD wrote:

    If I can get back on topic here...something about if women's world championships and titles are insulting...what does it say when the best woman in the world won't complete for the women's championship and the woman who won it cannot do a basic bishop/knight mate?  Seriously I am asking since I cannot answer this...at least not until I go to the ladies room

    All it says is she's like the rest of us. We're not all going to agree with everything said. Yes, it seems insulting on the surface, but as i had mentioned, it has a purpose. She might not have considered it.

    There are male GMs that have also failed to do the B+N mate.

    You seem to ave very good understanding of her. Actually, you don't even have a clue.

    Does woman want WWCC? Don't answer it. You are not entitled.

    I'm entitled to my opinion. Smile Do women want a WWCC? Women participate in it, so i would think there are at least some that do.

    Edit: You're going to have to troll harder if you want to p888ed me off. Tongue Out

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #222

    AlxMaster

    Sunshiny wrote: Do women want a WWCC? Women participate in it, so i would think there are at least some that do.

    To win the same money as 2400 that a man wins at 2600? Yes, I think most women are interested.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #223

    RatDogFriday

    Ron Burgundy put it perfectly:

    "I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science."

    :)

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #224

    Sunshiny

    markgravitygood wrote:

    Ron Burgundy put it perfectly:

    "I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science."

    :)

    Do we know who discovered the wheel? A woman's brain is smaller, but not by 1/3.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #225

    goldenturd

    Wow. Lighten up, Sunshine. That was clearly a joke.. even mentioned the comedy from which it was drawn from...

    This whole thing took a pretty bad turn. When people are actually arguing if the quality of play is currently anything close to the same in the WWCC as the WCC. That's not sexist, it's just a fact. 

    My only question is why do men even care? Yeah, currently women on the averages, play at a lower level than their counterparts. They have their own comeptitions so that women can win. We do the same thing in athletics, where the disadvantages are even more pronounced. Maybe one day, it will be uneccessary. That day is not now. So yeah, women should have their own league. And no, it's not insulting. It's accomodating.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #226

    Elubas

    Post #229: I would instead say he has every right to answer it, just that it's unlikely to be as accurate as a woman's answer in this case. But anyone can evaluate the accuracy of his answer as they see fit. If for example it's inaccurate for a person to say that these titles are taken as an insult by most women, or ought to be, then the people reading such a statement can simply decide to not adopt that opinion.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #227

    Sunshiny

    @Goldenturd - I wouldn't call it a joke, since it seems he wants to get me mad. That's what trolls do. It's a big joke to them. It doesn't bother me though. After i type my say, i'm off to the next post or thread to read.

    Yeah, i don't think anybody is arguing whether level of play is equal to the WWC. The problem seems to be people think they don't deserve the amount of money they receive. The fact is, the WCC does have a larger pot, but they distribute it differently. If the WCC distributed it the way the WWCC does (60/40), then the WCC champion would be winning about 200k more than the WWCC champion. It's the distribution that makes it seem unfair. Any money they generated for the pot, the players deserve to win. So even if they were total beginners, but people were willing to pay and sponsor the event so that the pot was $1 mil, then the players deserved it.

    @Elubas - Yes. I may not be accurate or even right, but i do have a right to speak my mind (with limitations). If what i said was wrong, then simply prove me wrong or don't believe what i said. I don't mind; I'm just offering a different opinion, and hopefully a correct one.

    Edit: @Elubas - No one woman can answer for all women either. Asking for women's opinion on it is only better because one can begin a tally. However, without a significantly large sample size, it doesn't mean much as statistical evidence.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #228

    goldenturd

    @Shiny

    Then I don't disgaree at all. If a bunch of 8 year olds paid to enter a tourny for kids only and ended up with a bigger pot than both of those, I'd think that's fair, too. 

    As for the joke... if you haven't seen the movie (pretty funny, btw), he's quoting a character that is chariacature of 70's chauvenism resisting a woman who is superior to him at his proffession (and clearly his intellectual superior).

    Anyway, threads about dead. To sum up: womens's events are fine. Women seem to have less of an affinity for chess in general, reasons debatable. Statistics would insist that eventually a woman will win a non-women's championship. And finally, why do men care that much?

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #229

    zborg

    Great summing up, @GoldenT.  Username too.  Laughing

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #230

    87654321

    A summing up containing many errors, so not that great really, actually pretty dumb.

    Anyway it seems our favourite bottle blonde is struggling, perhaps not surprising given the rating differential.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #231

    Sunshiny

    @GT - Nope, haven't seen the movie. There's more that's being said which makes his posts more trollish than just being a joke. I'll leave it at that.

    There could be many reasons why men "care." One reason could be to point out the 'fairness' of it, and use it as a counter argument to the gender wage dispute. I'm sure you and others can come up with more reasons if you think about it.


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