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Computer Thinking


  • 15 months ago · Quote · #1

    billmorris

    Since they want me to be nice; I am going to say something quite negative. Computer Thinking - HANGS - when losing or in a mating trap at the expert level. Worse - it shuts down your computer and/or will not let you do anything else on your computer. People - you should know this and WATCH OUT. This should not be.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #2

    Shivsky

    I think your computer opponent is using a human.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #3

    billmorris

    This is still a PROBLEM that will NOT go away for very long. It always somewhat of a LONG delay in Computer Thinking. This makes it quite annoying at the Expert+ Level and makes the site unusable for me. The last little while it goes to Computer Thinking for hours upon hours upon hours. I suggested before to have Force a Move in the programming. Many lesser quality Computers have this feature.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #4

    jac1yn

    Sorry you're having troubles with the computer.  Can you please let me know what type of browser and operating system you're using so that I can try to replicate the problem?

    Thanks for your help!

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #5

    billmorris

    Let me see if I understand this correctly. Do you mean to say it is my computer? When I log into your website and play against your computer; it is because my computer has a problem? This does not make any sense to me. Are you using my own computer against me?  

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #6

    Shivsky

    I think the support staff were simply stating that aspects of your system/browser may be non-typical and may have triggered some sort of bug/error that isn't commonly seen by most users.

    The more information you can give them, the more quickly they can replicate/characterize/analyze it to find a solution for you and possibly others.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #7

    billmorris

    I would like to point out that if you will check the long vast history of this problem you will discover; it has NOTHING to do with my computer or browser or operating system. It has to with the programming of the Chess.com website. The PROBLEM especially occurs when a person has YOUR COMPUTER in a mating or drawing position and it HANGS and HANGS and HANGS. I checked it out 2 hours ago - SAME PROBLEM. Please try to replicate this situation using your own methods. YOUR PROBLEM. 

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #8

    baddogno

    Come on Bill, calm down and think this through logically.  This is a browser based application and very sensitive to what the user's equipment is.  Does no good to shout "fix it" at the staff without giving them the information to do so.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #9

    billmorris

    I am quite calm about this. If you check the previous 1438 comments on this problem; you will discover that it has nothing to do with my browser. When I go to a new fancy machine with an absolutely current fast browser; It does exactly the same thing. HUH?? Please, do not insult my intelligence. The previous 1438 comments explained the real problem place - Chess. com. Additionally, it can KONK out the users computer; if you will check my comment from 3 months ago.   

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #10

    billmorris

    Please keep in mind I intend this topic to be a positive learning experience. The particular game I was playing has NOW passed over the HUMP of long delay. This happens even in master play. I would like to point out that at the Expert+ level; your chess computer is actually fairly strong. I am only trying to HELP you with improvements and suggestions to a PROBLEM at the strongest highest level you have "Playing Against the Computer".

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #11

    tmodel66

    I haven't experienced the problem raised b the OP, but I would be interested to hear if some people have experienced the following issue with computer opponents on ches.com:  when playing against a computer opponent of a given ranking, I find that after winning a game (or two) the program plays stronger against me in subsequent games.  Is there an algorithm (that makes the computer play stonger) to keep people from buliding rating points by repeatedly beating down a weak computer opponent or am I just psyched out about this?

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #12

    macer75

    um... so what is "Computer Thinking" anyway?

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #13

    Shivsky

    In Bill's defense: I just tried to run a simulated "my PC engine vs. Chess.com's Expert" game and noticed it hang right about the time some serious butt-hurt was about to occur (my dedicated PC's engine was evidently winning).

    Been stuck in this position for over 5 minutes so far (all other moves occurred in less than 20-30 seconds).

    My OS is Win7 32-bit, running on Chrome. Java 7 update 25 if it helps the support staff.

    Here's where it hung:

    In summary => I now reinforce my 1st comment in this thread : I think my computer opponent is using a human. :)

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #14

    NJCat

    I've been waiting for the computer to move for a couple hours now -_-

    Browser: Google Chrome

    OS: Windows 8 64-bit

    What's more, when I go to copy the PGN text, it lists black as "Computer-Hard" (when it should say Expert instead of Hard).

    Beyond the three hour mark now and I'm tired of waiting. My brilliant moves must have broken the computer (lol...not). I think I'll just finish the game against Fruit and post it here when its (finally) over.

    While I was finishing up against Fruit, I had left the browser tab open in case the actual Chess.com computer decided it was ready to make a move. It had: Kxg7. After playing Qg5+ (the same response as in the ending against Fruit), the computer started "thinking" again and hasn't stopped since.

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #15

    billmorris

    Thank you for your comment. Please note that it is just not me. It is difficult to obtain a computer with STRONG chess programming. This is why I mentioned it; always looking for an improvement.

    Regards, Bill

  • 11 months ago · Quote · #16

    NJCat

    So a day now has gone by and I was finally able to complete the game against the actual Chess.com computer. Same end, different means, along with a very peculiar bug in the program that may be a contributing factor to the excruciating wait time for the computer to make a move. Here is the final result (without asistance from Fruit):

    As you should have read in the analysis, computer moves 30-35 each took about an hour on top of the three hours I waiting for move 29. More over, the computer failed to recognize that the same position had been repeated three times, at which point the game should have ended automatically in a draw. I'm not sure if these two issues are related to one another, but it may be worth looking in to.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #17

    billmorris

    Well, the PROBLEM is BACK. Computer Thinking, Computer Thinking, Computer Thinking. It is hung. This normally occurs when the Computer is in a losing or compromising position and does not want to make a definite LOSING move with normal play. Only occurs at the Expert + Level. I have waited over 72 hours in the past so when its hung - its hung. Please check my login Computer GAME to see the actual problem - first hand. Thank you. 

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #18

    billmorris

    Interestingly enough, 5 minutes after my Posting the Computer Moved. I estimate the waiting time about 1 hour 50 minutes. I do not know what you did; however, thank you.     

    Bill


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