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cartman58
http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=164990157
In this game, I should have received a win because my opponent ran out of time, however the system awarded a draw for insufficient material. Weird glitch. I guess I'm just screwed out of the potential points, but wanted to report it anyway.
Thanks.
lopoi88
Wow thta really stinks . The system must have thought that you can't get a checkmate with a 'pawn' even though you can advance it into a queen.
rockpeter
Hmmm thats strange.
No, I was black in this situation. Do you only receive a draw if the clock runs out and you only have a king? I always assumed clocks were absolute and that if it ran out it was an automatic victory for the opponent?
omnipaul
This was not a glitch. It is a common misunderstanding that running out of time is an automatic loss. There are times when it is not, and this was one of those times.
Think about it this way:
White could not win because they ran out of time.
Black could not win because they had "insufficient material" to create a mate.
If neither player can win, then the result is a draw.
Note that the chess.com system also has a rudimentary system in place to declare draws by "opponent not trying to win by normal means" (i.e., they're just trying to run down your clock). The result of this is that in some situations where there is technically sufficient material to mate, a draw will still be awarded on running out of time (such as K vs. KNN). This causes further confusion on this site because those are also declared drawn by "insufficient material" instead of calling it something else.
whirlwind2011
Well said. Perhaps a better term would be "insufficient losing chances."
Thanks for clearing this up. It makes sense, although that's not the logic that I was following.
One could make the argument that running out of time should result in a loss regardless of material because you have been given an advantage in time that one could argue led to your material advantage in the first place.
It's no big deal, but fun to debate.
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