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9th August 2009, 07:48pm
#1
by Humness
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 116

I recently won a game against Mao_plah rated 1943 on time. At the time I was rated 1937 and am still on the same rating, my rating did not go up despite my win. Any help on this?

9th August 2009, 07:53pm
#2
by conman1000
North Carolina United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 2100

It takes a few moves for ratings to adjust in the case of a timeout, I see there were 3 but I don't know the exact number but I think it is more than 3.

9th August 2009, 08:02pm
#3
by Humness
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 116

I'm sorry, I don't understand.

10th August 2009, 05:29am
#4
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3689
Humness wrote:

I recently won a game against Mao_plah rated 1943 on time. At the time I was rated 1937 and am still on the same rating, my rating did not go up despite my win. Any help on this?


The site policy is a game that ends in a timeout is not rated if less than four moves have been played.

10th August 2009, 06:45am
#5
by Humness
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 116

omg, why? That's a terrible rule, the abort button is already available to both players at the start, so why this other rule? Seems kind of unfair.

10th August 2009, 07:24am
#6
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3689
Humness wrote:

omg, why? That's a terrible rule, the abort button is already available to both players at the start, so why this other rule? Seems kind of unfair.


A rating is a measure of your ability to play. You did not demonstrate any.

10th August 2009, 07:38am
#7
by Danconqueror
United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 69

Wait, Wait, Wait back up please?     What are you guys talking about. Im confused. So if less than four moves have been played in online chess, and one dude times out, the game doesn't count?

10th August 2009, 07:42am
#8
by georgez
Porto Alegre Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 389
Danconqueror wrote:

Wait, Wait, Wait back up please?     What are you guys talking about. Im confused. So if less than four moves have been played in online chess, and one dude times out, the game doesn't count?


Not for rating.

10th August 2009, 07:56am
#9
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3689
Danconqueror wrote:

Wait, Wait, Wait back up please?     What are you guys talking about. Im confused. So if less than four moves have been played in online chess, and one dude times out, the game doesn't count?


The win is counted but there is no rating adjustment on a game ended by timeout before four moves.

In this rated game warriorgame won on time vs tournamentguy.

warriorgame's archive displays the rating before the win as 1769 and after as 1769.

Tournament Game  warriorgame (1769)  tournamentguy (1694) 1-0 (won) 1 day 1 8/09/2009 view  
Tournament Game  harles_dan (1640)  warriorgame (1769) 0-1 (won) 1 day 22 8/09/2009 view
10th August 2009, 07:56am
#10
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854
conman1000 wrote:

It takes a few moves for ratings to adjust in the case of a timeout, I see there were 3 but I don't know the exact number but I think it is more than 3.


 Yes that's right, it has to be 4 moves and the game was 3 moves long so the rating don't change. But I think it should change though.

10th August 2009, 07:57am
#11
by Baseballfan
Durham, North Carolina United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1872

If fewer than four moves have been played, and one player times out, the game does not add to the winner's rating. This is because in terms of chess skill, such games are meaningless.

That said, the game will count AGAINST the loser, thier time out % will go up, their rating will drop. This is so that players cant simply time out in games to aviod playing a certain opening or something like that.

10th August 2009, 08:00am
#12
by Humness
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 116

I see, much more clear now (the rule that is, still think that it should not be implemented), but thank you all nevertheless.

10th August 2009, 08:15am
#13
by TadDude
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 3689

Baseballfan wrote "That said, the game will count AGAINST the loser, thier time out % will go up, their rating will drop. This is so that players cant simply time out in games to aviod playing a certain opening or something like that."

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While the site may want the timeout loser to drop rating points, it is not working that way. Maybe it can be in the next release.

See tournamentguy's game archive. Rating remains 1694 after less than four moves timeout losses. (Note: Having won the first game shown the five game timeout floor is not in effect.)

Tournament Game  warriorgame (1769)  tournamentguy(1694) 1-0 (lost) 1 day 1 8/09/2009 view  
Tournament Game  tournamentguy(1694) Adamperfection (2134) 0-1 (lost) 1 day 0 8/09/2009 view  
Tournament Game  tournamentguy(1694)  blackwolf (1854) 0-1 (lost) 1 day 0 8/09/2009 view  
Tournament Game  tournamentguy(1694)  likitysplit (1564) 0-1 (lost) 1 day 0 8/09/2009 view  
Tournament Game  tournamentguy(1694)  bfcace (1626) 0-1 (lost) 1 day 0 8/09/2009 view  
Turn-Based Game  eeverdugo (1564)  tournamentguy(1694) 0-1 (won) 3 days 7 8/09/2009 view  
10th August 2009, 08:19am
#14
by Humness
Bangkok Thailand
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 116

TadDude is correct, same goes for my opponent, his rating is still the same as well.

 

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