It seems to me that if one is on "vacation" they shouldnt be allowed to play any moves at all until off of "vacation". Is this hard to implement?

I am sure from a system point of view (chess.com), something could be programmed along the lines

If the person wants to go on vacation then they can only do so when it is NOT their turn to make a move in ALL games.

 If they log back in and make a move in a game, then Vacation is automatically disabled and can only be re-enabled if the player makes a move in ALL games.

I think this would solve the original query. Hope this makes sense!!!

I have not yet experienced a problem with vacation abuse but reckon I will eventually. Have many here had this problem? 

I got the answer!. Etienne's problem is that he has to keep checking on that person's game to see if they moved and he's not losing on time, right. But they only have one or two moves left which are forced.

The solution is to allow Etienne to make conditional moves (like in correspondence).  Then when they do move (at 4am in the morning), the preprogrammed move plays even though Etienne's not on line.

Reb

>It seems to me that if one is on "vacation" they shouldnt be allowed to play any moves at all until off of "vacation". Is this hard to implement? <

This is what we have now, what happens is they (te abuser) jumps out of vacation mode plays the moves in the games they are winning.  Then jump back into vacation mode so they never have to finish the games they are losing or atleast delay it for a long time.

I had a LONG vacation with my parents last year. (TWO WHOLE WEEKS) And limiting vacation would have made me lose games if I was on the site then.

I had an opponent that played all the above tricks on me, before going on vacation, facing mate in one in our game.

However, I had a "Gambit variation" at my disposal:

1. I wrote an item in my blog (now deleted) telling my opponents I was going away for a while.

2 I then set my positions to "vacation".

3 Logged off.

4. Logged back on one hour later... and guess what? Yep! he'd played his final move.

**Addenda** He seemed a little annoyed that I refused his rematch challenge and sent him a lesson in etiquette at the same time. Oh! happy day!

Ray_Brooks wrote:

I had an opponent that played all the above tricks on me, before going on vacation, facing mate in one in our game.

However, I had a "Gambit variation" at my disposal:

1. I wrote an item in my blog (now deleted) telling my opponents I was going away for a while.

2 I then set my positions to "vacation".

3 Logged off.

4. Logged back on one hour later... and guess what? Yep! he'd played his final move.

**Addenda** He seemed a little annoyed that I refused his rematch challenge and sent him a lesson in etiquette at the same time. Oh! happy day!

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Good one Ray Brooks.

I've now got a similar problem. Two opponents playing one move every now and then in totally lost positions. Their names just get in the way. Maybe they could be hidden and an alert comes up when you've got a day left to make your move?

I love it when I see my opponents both "on vaction" and "online now" at the same time.  I can wait as long as you want people.  It won't change the truth.

Yeah, just wait it out and they will eventually lose once their vacation time runs out. Chess players *should* have the patience for this. 

It's not really about patience Matt, it's about disrespect for the opposition.

Etienne wrote: The player is using her vacation only so the time she has to play her move won't go down, but she goes out of vacation to play her other mvoes, then back to vacation again. She is only using it so her timer on my game will never go down until perhaps the 30 days (28 left I think) have gone down. I don't think vacations were meant to be used that way... as this is obviously the abuse of a feature.

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i share the same frustration with you man. but i just let them do that. they did not calculate that if they lose now and win tom they will get a higher rating. its better than win games then lost as it may cause them higher minus on their ratings. and where here to play our first love, CHESS! everything including rating is of secondary importance.

I want to interject a comment about this vacation time.  If you change the rules about vacation, those who don't abuse the vacation time will suffer, I am talking about who  actually need it.  I think it is unneccessary to actually do a correction because they will use up their vacation time and it will self correct.

I usually play lots of games  so I don't pay any attention to vacation problem.

People are people anywhere. We should respect their weaknesses. 

I disagree with the abuse of the provision of vacation. 

That is simply bads manners .

Why not identify such abusers? At least if they are identified many others can simply avoid playing with them. Soon, they would have none to play.

Reb

>Why not identify such abusers? At least if they are identified many others can simply avoid playing with them. Soon, they would have none to play<

I thought of the same but maybe it will probably lead to a deluge of false accusations from the the not so mature members.

 

we have some very good plans to deal with cheaters, bad behavers, etc. it will take a little while, but it will get implemented :)

"Why not identify such abusers? At least if they are identified many others can simply avoid playing with them. Soon, they would have none to play"

 

Oh dear. Bad idea.

Why is it a bad idea batgal?