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22nd November 2007, 06:18am
#1
by PawnFork
St. Louis United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 323

Yesterday I read a message from somebody complaining that when someone achieves a poor position they "go on vacation".  Today I was playing a game in a fairly poor position, but was able to think up a trap for his queen.  Boom! He's on vacation.

 

I would like some assurance that by going on vacation from one game, he goes on vacation from all of his games simultaneously and automatically.  I do not appreciate poor sportsmanship and will not tolerate a system which allows mechanics to interfere with game outcomes.

 

For that matter, it would be nice to have to schedule vacation days in advance and note the status on all games.

 

If you are already doing this, my apologies.  Otherwise, I'll try to find that poster from yesterday so we can perhaps start a blacklist of vacation abusers and try to publicize it.

22nd November 2007, 06:31am
#2
by Queenie
The Country House United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1377
Oh get over it, there have been so many complaints about people going on vacaction, because "they are afraid of losing out to whom they are playing" . So what if they play in a way you don't like 'DON'T PLAY WITH THEM AGAIN'. People use their vaction time for untold reasons, not just to save themselves from losing, after all they still have to come back from vaction and finish the game.  So it takes time, but learn no to play that person again, if you are 100% sure they used their vaction time just to make you fed up.
22nd November 2007, 06:41am
#3
by PawnFork
St. Louis United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 323

Hence the proposal for a black list.

 

Get over it I will, but remember that using this time control of 33 days per move it could be 2017 before a game ends!

 

If you want assurance of good manners, perhaps you need to operate under the auspicies of a governing body like the USCF of FIDE which enforces it.

22nd November 2007, 06:49am
#4
by Queenie
The Country House United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1377

You can always resign games that take too long, but may I ask who are you to blacklist someone, because YOU don't like the way they play. Surely we all have enough savvy to deceide who we want to play a seond time,without other people imposing their standards on us. 99.9% players I have played on this site have good manners already. We have the owner of Chess.com to ensure we are mindful of being nice to other, and having good manners.

22nd November 2007, 06:56am
#5
by Selangor
Bratislava Slovak Republic
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1056
Try to play on with the other games and ignore this one for the moments. Sooner or later, he/she still had to make the move. There are plenty of (new)games to start/play.
22nd November 2007, 06:58am
#6
by Queenie
The Country House United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1377
Selangor wrote: Try to play on with the other games and ignore this one for the moments. Sooner or later, he/she still had to make the move. There are plenty of (new)games to start.

Hear, Hear.

22nd November 2007, 08:05am
#7
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 5956

i think this is a fair point as it is a major annoyance. and this is why people now cannot go on vacation without having moved in all of their games. people used to go on vacation for ALL of their games and then only come back and play the games they are winning. but now they cannot - they must play all of their moves in all of their games.

however, creating a blacklist is unecessary. you can just take a look at somebody's past behavior now. how much vacation they have used, their timeout ratio, etc. 

what we need is more courteous behavior from those who are losing, and more tolerance from everyone :)


22nd November 2007, 08:07am
#8
by ancientpistol
michigan United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 355
here! here!Smile
22nd November 2007, 08:13am
#9
by ancientpistol
michigan United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 355
or is it hear, hear!? does anyone know the origin of this saying? i know its off topic but i couldnt resist, just curious
22nd November 2007, 09:40am
#10
by ghostofmaroczy
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 116
erik wrote:

i think this is a fair point as it is a major annoyance. and this is why people now cannot go on vacation without having moved in all of their games. people used to go on vacation for ALL of their games and then only come back and play the games they are winning. but now they cannot - they must play all of their moves in all of their games.

however, creating a blacklist is unecessary. you can just take a look at somebody's past behavior now. how much vacation they have used, their timeout ratio, etc. 

what we need is more courteous behavior from those who are losing, and more tolerance from everyone :)


 What if I make a move in all my games then try to go on vacation but someone responds very quickly and it is once again my move?  Can I still go on vacation?


22nd November 2007, 10:44am
#11
by PawnFork
St. Louis United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 323

Mind real vacations are ok.  But if so, the least you can do is notify your opponent, "hey next Tuesday I'm going on vacation for five days."  As is, the guy can even take a full 72 hrs to move and that's clear enough from the time constraint you go into the game with.

 

What I have a problen with is in the heat of a game, without warning,  the moment before when my position looked lost he was happy enough to blitz it out. Not even a quick "got to go!"

 

When I play, I have to go at odd intervals and mysteriously show up when I can, but I've tried to be up front about it.  Oh well, u'm now up to speed on the mechanics ...

21st August 2008, 07:55am
#12
by Patzer24
United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 7998

If an opponent makes a move right when you try to go on vacation then you should get a notice that an opponent has made a move and you will be able to go back and play your move and then try to go on vacation again.

 

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