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ya because ppl with <1800 rating well they just don't count. I mean really, how sad must you be to be <1800. And besides (just to be redundant) it's not like catching ppl who are cheating and gettting more sophisticated at it as they go early on their cheating game (you know, lower ratings) will do anything. We wouldn't want to do that and level the playing field. That's just so counter-anti-un-intutive as to be ridiculous. Not enough resources. And if and when they do have enough resources, they will prolly just pocket the extra and say 'thanks very much' enjoy your lame cheaters, have some fun with the honest players.
I can understand playing styles making a huge difference in winning and losing. however I have a real problem with ppl adjusting time frames, and 'adjourning games' they are losing. <golfclap>
Some people just don't have anything better to do and if we were seriously interested in beating the cheaters we would become protocal techies or just be better cheaters than them; except we play chess and they cheat. So we suffer the lame. Get used to it, get over it, or change it and turn the tables on them.
Something puzzles me:
1. cheating *here* is not a crime under the jurisdiction of the place the site sever is at.
2. So, banning/sanctioning someone for cheating - is it not discrimination; legally speaking?
3. So, can a banned/sanctioned party sue the site owners successfully?
Just curious: please, lawyers only, prefereably with knowledge of case law in the relevant jurisdiction, respond to my post.
it will hurt the cheaters when they get beaten...
I see. And what will happen to sick murderers who drop napalm bombs on innocent peasants and little children, and their plane is shot down and they are captured? Will they be called 'War Heroes'?
That they were *only* obeying orders will not do, not after the Nuremberg Trials.
"Every day the bucket draws from the well
One day the bottom will drop out
yes, one day the bottom will drop out"
- Bob Marley
"Cheaters" are titles, "war heroes" are titles.. we shall reap what we sow. If we planted love in other peoples hearts, the fruits become love too it may rot but it still came from love. If we play the game of chess fairly then we reap a good harvest either we win or lose because we learn on a positive way. When one cheats he/ she cheats himself/herself.He /she can laugh all their heart out in their actions but there is always a price to pay for the path we choose.And as for those "war heroes" that wre quoted as sick...God gave us free will to think...it's just the choice of priority that matters most if they pick God and their conscience 1st or Their Boss.:)
I totally agree with you Baltic, Allah is great.
NormaJean I don't feel like addressing your stupid comment for too long but I will refer you to this page http://www.chess.com/legal.html#rules
Chess.com is privately owned, they can enforce any rules they want as long as such rules do not break the law. In other words they can ban program users but they can't ban "all black people"... etc. So in response to your brilliant question no, jurisdiction has nothing to do with telling known cheaters to play elsewhere. They privately own the site. They enforce the rules (within reason) and everyone here is bound to those rules once they register. If they don't like them, they are free to leave.
Hey but maybe when you are on one of your upswings you can get a grassroots chess-program-cheater civil rights movement going. Perhaps after many hard fought years they will finally be protected under national anti-discrimination laws. Good luck!
My god, some people are *seriously* brain damaged! He brings in Allah here!
*Vietnamese* peasants, crackhead! *Vietnamese* children. John McCain. Napalm. War Hero? War Criminal?
Connect the dots.
This has left the main point. I think that cheaters will have to find another site to cheat when Live Chess is improved.
some people have such little control over thier own bodies that they cannot resist talking about politics on public forums. It never ceases to amaze me that such people honestly think that their comments will be seen as anything besides pointless.
With all due respect, I think the whole BANNING CHEATERS thing is so out of whack. If people have such boring and uneventful lives to use a chess program to play their games for them, then one should merely pity them and encourage them to do something better with their lives
You started late in life at 107 years of age... maybe youre just upset with us young whippersnappers
I don't like it and it's wrong. There are a few jerks in every crowd. But this isn't at the top of my things-to-worry-about list.
Not just online...Technology is allowing it to happen in tournaments too.
“An Indian chess player has been banned for 10 years for cheating after he was caught using his mobile phone’s Bluetooth connection to win games,”this news article says.”The player, Umakant Sharma, had logged rating points at a rapid pace in the last 18 months and also qualified for the national championship, arousing the suspicion of officials and bemusing rivals.Mr Sharma was finally caught at a recent tournament when officials discovered that he had stitched a Bluetooth device in a cloth cap which he always pulled over his ears. He communicated to his accomplices outside the hall, who then used a computer to relay moves to him, Indian chess federation secretary D.V. Sundar said on Wednesday”.
' I think that the biggest downside to playing chess online is that people can cheat!'
It is worth remembering that even though Fischer won the world title in 1972, he always considered that he had been world champion since 1962.It was his view that every progression to the title was undermined by his opponents colluding.
i.e.players from the same block of nations finding the best moves for each other during adjournments.
For first I apologize for my English, probably not so good...but I hope good enough to be understood..
I think tonight I've played two games vs. Houdini or Ribka..People rated 1300/1600 whom don't make the minimum mistake and when you made a move a little weaker (not a blunder...just a little weak move) they always punish you like they were GMs...I really don't understand those people...but I've the solution....I usually play 30 min games, from today, every time I fell I'm outplayed by Houdini, I just go for a walk, without resign...let the cheater there, waiting and waiting...Maybe someone can think this is a child behaviour...but they must be punished in some way...
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