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4th March 2009, 04:03pm
#1
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 969

There is a bug in the live chess. I played a game and this ended up into K vs K+Q then the computer ended the game in a draw because of insufficient material. Why?

4th March 2009, 04:20pm
#2
by sableWhist
Dayton United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 180

might we see the game?

4th March 2009, 04:24pm
#3
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750

Doesn't sound like it should have been so, but a view of the game would help!

4th March 2009, 04:27pm
#4
by sstteevveenn
Wales United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1634

Sounds like one of two things happened. 

1) The player with the K+Q ran out of time. 

2) The computer adjudged the player with the K+Q to have run out of time.

4th March 2009, 04:28pm
#5
by NotKasparov
Wilmington (near Philadelphia) United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 356

Whoa, I didn't believe him at first (I never believe people with avatars like his), but look at http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=16257564.

EDIT:  I just read steven's post, and yeah that makes sense 'cause Gert was playing white (with K+Q) and black had had the last move.

I feel safe again.

5th March 2009, 12:35am
#6
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 969

@notkasparov: thanks for posting the game.I played black and had only the king left. My opponent had the king and queen left.

@sstteevveenn: you're right. white (K+Q) was running out of time. but why is that not a win for black? I was not checkmated.

5th March 2009, 12:48am
#7
by heavyop
Seattle United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 264

If your opponent runs out of time and you have insufficient matieral to mate, then the game is a draw, hope that helps ;)

5th March 2009, 12:50am
#8
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 969

but why is it a draw? the person who runs out of time first loses the game ?

5th March 2009, 12:54am
#9
by heavyop
Seattle United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 264

Yeah, but if the game were to continue, there would be no way for you to win, so since you can't win in the game, you can't win on time either

5th March 2009, 12:55am
#10
by cuendillar
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 823

No, only if a mate is possible against worst play. Otherwise they would be able to play on with just K vs K till either side won on time. This is also whythe stronger player sometimes goes after, or even sacrifices for, his opponents final pawn rather than playing for mate at once if he's short on time.

5th March 2009, 01:38am
#11
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 969

thanks for explaining everybody. It was the first time I saw this. Very interesting.

12th March 2009, 01:58am
#12
by pbpostma
Papakura New Zealand
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 2927
Gert-Jan wrote:

There is a bug in the live chess. I played a game and this ended up into K vs K+Q then the computer ended the game in a draw because of insufficient material. Why?


White should win that game, as it is on move too! Gert-jan, you are lucky because you was Black... still it is not fair! 

12th March 2009, 03:48am
#13
by Gert-Jan
Groningen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 969

No pbpostma, I was not lucky because my opponent did not have much time. I could have win on time.

 

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