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insufficient material


  • 24 months ago · Quote · #1

    jr212

    My game was declare draw. Why? I have a rook!

    http://live.chess.com/live?v=20120926#g=374449565

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #2

    DavidStyles

    Here's the actual link: http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=374449565

    And yes, I've seen a few of these lately... It certainly is bizarre. 

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #3

    DavidStyles

    Here is a game drawn by insufficient material, with a Queen on the board:

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game?id=371598663 

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #4

    DavidStyles

    [excuse the double post that it won't now let me delete]

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #5

    omnipaul

    If one player runs out of time, the result is normally a loss for that player.  However, if their opponent does not have sufficient mating material, the game is instead declared drawn.

    In the game specified, white had only a King and couldn't mate black no matter what moves were made.  So the game was declared drawn by [white's] insufficient material once black's time ran out.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #6

    DavidStyles

    Ah... That would be the missing information - that the defender flagged the attacker.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #7

    DavidStyles

    Incidentally, Chess.com doesn't use that drawing rule for correspondence chess. 

    For example, I won this horrendously lost game on time, when I was expecting to draw it when my opponent timed out: http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=46080532 

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #8

    omnipaul

    Correspondence is a different playing style.  You're not racing against the clock when you have X days per move.

    I'm not certain, but I think the drawing on time is only for 'quickplay' matches or matches with Sudden Death time controls, where the clock is important.  The clock in correspondence is to ensure that there is a penalty if the game is abandoned.  I seriously doubt anyone spends an entire three days just studying one game.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #9

    jr212

    I still hade some time left.

    So flaged is not the case

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #10

    fdar

    How much time?

    Sometimes if you have connection problems the server may be getting your moves somewhat later than you think, so you may have less time than your computer tells you...


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