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Letting time run out vs resigning


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    jerseyjack

    On live chess, why do some players who find themselves down on pieces or position or both let time run with no moves vs resigning?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Bronco70

    So they can blame the clock and not themselves for giving up. Like Mama said "quiters never prosper"

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    kohai

    Chess.com encourages players to be kind and show good sportsmanship. Our Fair Play policy expects that players will not:

         intentionally disconnect during games
        stall to make opponents wait unnecessarily
        frivolously abort games because they don't want to play black, etc.

    If their account is flagged for breaking this policy they account will be restricted. They will still be able to play games with friends or accept direct challenges, but they will not be able to create or accept open challenges until they play more games that follow the fair play policy.

    Their game behavior is detected by our server

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    Wolfwind

    How does system tells bad sportsmans apart from people who just keep thinking ? :)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    ponz111

    jerseyjack wrote:

    On live chess, why do some players who find themselves down on pieces or position or both let time run with no moves vs resigning?


     Usually because they are jerks.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    frankiebouy

    i just played my fifth game on live chess and my opponent said he has to go and let time run out instead of resigning, strange because there was only three minutes left.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    Markle

    frank1462 wrote:

    i just played my fifth game on live chess and my opponent said he has to go and let time run out instead of resigning, strange because there was only three minutes left.


     I think your opponent used a lame excuse, how long does it take to click on the resign button I also like the guys that will abort a game on move one because they are higher rated and are afraid to lose to someone lower rated. Some people act like idiots what can you do

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    frankiebouy

    Markle wrote:
    frank1462 wrote:

    i just played my fifth game on live chess and my opponent said he has to go and let time run out instead of resigning, strange because there was only three minutes left.


     I think your opponent used a lame excuse, how long does it take to click on the resign button I also like the guys that will abort a game on move one because they are higher rated and are afraid to lose to someone lower rated. Some people act like idiots what can you do


    you are right i suppose. i much prefer the other chess where you have two or three days to move.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    frrixz

    BULLET CHESS STINKS

    Especially because time lag issues continually force me to lose on time.

    I'm done with bullet chess. It's not real chess.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #10

    suraka

    I just had someone stop playing with 5min left on the clock when their position became hopeless. I see that it's in violation of the Fair Play Policy, how do I report this? Or is there some sort of auto-report that happens when no moves are made for the last couple minutes of a timed out game?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    kohai

    Its auto detected by the live chess server. Its also the server that restricts their play if they don't play fairly (not staff)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    palackan

    I just lost to a guy on time ...

    he has 12 mins left i have 2 

    i will win by mate in 1 move after his ...... i thought he had lost connectivity and moves to casual browsing ....  he doesnt resign and waits till 11 mins  moves which i dont obviously see and wins on time ... after this he types in stupidcomments in chat window ... these guys should be banned and game points should be returned ... this has happened to me a several times now ... why dont chess.com add some mechanism to enforce fairplay ...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    palackan

    I play for fun when i get spare time between work ... why would i stare @ a blank screen for 10 mins ... for points no way ... but just that its not fair ... but today i felt very bad because i was on some 10 match loosing streak and i lost a match which i one ... but the number of guys like this is 5 in 300 matches i played .. so i not bad record may be :)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    johnnyrocco

    this topic really burns my biscuit! I realize i play @ 1000-1100 level so not chess geniuses, but still, when someone abandons a 15/10 game with 11 min left because they are playing poorly i get a bit heated. my tactics are to ban them, drop a polite note thanking for wasting my time and perhaps share with them the way they remind me of fetid diseased rhinoceros dung eating beetle larvae. but i have banned almost 10% of the games i have played, i mean WTF?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    melvinbluestone

    This is unbelievable! Staff member kohai states in post #4 that "players should not stall to make opponents wait unnecessarily". I agree that this is rude and obnoxious and players shouldn't do it. But there is no accurate way to determine if a player is stalling or just thinking. That's what the clock is for..... Duh! If chess.com wants players to move faster, simply recommend shorter time controls. They should not penalize players they think are stalling, when in fact they may just be thinking. It's in the very nature of the game that players occasionally take a long time to make a move. If it happens to be a player's last move, because his clock runs out, so be it. The other player should just be happy with the win and quit griping because he had to wait...... I believe this website's engineers are well-meaning, but this technological attempt to regulate human behavior is ridiculous.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    kco

    I think what she really meant to say is this.... 

    "stall to make opponents wait unnecessarily" in a losing position.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    beardogjones

    If the person is in a losing position, how do we know they are skilled enough

    to know that they are ina losing position?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    kco

    K+Q vs K ? should black with the lone king keep going ?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    kco

    kco wrote:

    I think what she really meant to say is this.... 

    "stall to make opponents wait unnecessarily" in a losing position.


     not just once but in a numbers of times.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #20

    melvinbluestone

    beardogjones wrote:

    If the person is in a losing position, how do we know they are skilled enough

    to know that they are ina losing position?


     Check and double-check! to this ridiculous argument. The point is this: When I play a ten minute game, for example, I do so with the understanding that my opponent has ten minutes to make his moves. He may get mated or resign, and in that case use less than ten minutes. Or he may use the entire ten minutes. I know this going in. He may make 30 moves in ten minutes, or he may make 15, or 5 or 3. He may have spent the last month studying the Morphy Defense in the Lopez and I hit 'em with 3...g6!? So he may take a long time on his fourth move, or any move. I enter into a TEN MINUTE game with the understanding my opponent has TEN minutes to make his moves. How he alots his time, or how many moves he makes in that time period, is his business. He's got ten minutes. If he has to take a phone call, or see his wife off to work during the game, that's his business. If he gets fed up, and walks away, he has that right. When his clock runs out, I get the win. What's the problem? That's the game. Why is chess.com trying to "devine" the other player's state of mind and pass a judgement on it? So my opponent gets disgusted and abandons the game. I get the win. If you don't like waiting for your opponent, whatever he's doing, don't play!


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