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"it's only a game, what's so serious about it ?" (chrisr2212)
Games are mean to be fun, it is not fun to be siting there looking a timer count to zero. You should be more considered to other people, if you are no going to play more the game, then resign. What you win wasting the time of the other person?
"You have agreed to give some of your precious time away to your opponent to use as they see fit." (DKof)
No. Me and the other player, both of us agree that we are going to spend our time playing a game together. I totally understand that something important happens and the other player can't keep on playing, in that case, why no resigning before standing up?
" If they decide to spend their entire allotment on one move, so be it."
Sure, why no? people with not experience on fast live chess does this. I don't have a problem with this. My problem is with people who is not longer playing. People who is not thinking a move or nothing and they just let the other person waiting for something that is not going to happend.
"If you don't like the way they are using their time, resign."
One more time, they are using nothing, they stand up and go to do something else, this is not "using their time" this is wasting other peoples time. And they should resign before wasting the time of other player.
No. Me and the other player, both of us agree that we are going to spend our time playing a game together.
You are mistaken. Time controls are very specific as are the rules. During your opponents turn, you have limited options. I hate to be the one to break this to you, demanding that your opponent has to move at a particular time or ever is not one of the options. Get use to it. Once your game has started, the time controls are set. No, sorry, changing the controls after the game has started would not be a "Good" thing. I would also caution against reading too much into someone agreeing to play a game with you. They might not have EXACTLY the same motives as you. They may be checking their CPU loading and wanted to open another (heavily scripted) browser window.
I am not demanding that my oponent have to move at any time. I don't see how from the quote you show you get such conclusion.
I am saying that if the other player have something else to do and can't finish the game, then resign before leaving the board.
I am no asking for this to become a rule, I am trying to reason the people who does this to be considered to the other player and don't waste their time.
" I would also caution against reading too much into someone agreeing to play a game with you."
Sorry, English is not my mother leanguage, this sentence makes not sence to me, can you explain in a more simple way, please?
"They may be checking their CPU loading and wanted to open another (heavily scripted) browser window"
For that matter they can play a computer, you know that is an option too?. If all they want is to perform some test on their conection, or whaever, there is also better tools than a chess game. There is plenty of tools that will not abuse other people, if you know what I mean.
Ok, let's start by noting that we agree that there is no rule which says "you are not allowed to let your time run out while your board is unattended". This is true for both online chess and OTB chess. Don't you wonder why there is not such a rule? I see the good sense and wisdom in not having such a rule.
You might argue that it would depend on the "intentions" of your opponent, that is, whether they are planning on returning to the game or have abandoned it. A rule which would include how you "feel" about returning or not to your game is meaningless. Obviously, intentions and feelings can change in a split second. So if there should be no rule, then what? There is the question of your opponent being inconsiderate.
It may just be a personality difference, but, I do not feel that an opponent can be inconsiderate of me if he does not violate any rules. For example, if he stalls in a losing position and is able to frustrate me into resigning, I would have to say "Well Played". He effectively used the rules of the game to produce a win. You are looking for too much if you want more than your opponent to follow the rules.
BTW, there are some rules which when broken have only minor penalties but large payoffs. To those that use these methods I would have to say "Extremely Well Played!".
The solution to this is simple:if a player has not made a move for X time, a very annoying sound will play. This sound cannot be shut off until you make a move. If you mute your computer, you will lose the game and a scary picture of a clown laughing at you will pop up. This clown picture cannot be closed, much like those annoying rickrolls that require you to restart your computer.
By the way, I lost the game.
Is there any way I can set something like "30 minutes time control per game, 5 minutes maximum per move?"
This is the best answer IMO. Because this happens SO much, I only play 5 -10 minutes games and Online/Turn-Based games.
By the way there is a rule that says you can't stall in totally lost positions in chess.com
I wonder if that's why this guy's account was closed?
Or does that message mean he closed his own account?
I am not trying to create any rule. I made this clear on the same message you are quoting from me, so why are you explaining to me that it is not a good idea to create such rule?
There is other things that are not rules but still they are moral, or ethical. there is some rules that are inmoral... and so on.
I am not asking to create any rule.
I am aware that this happens OTB too, that doesnt make it any more legitic, if that was your intention.
There are several diferent kinds of games. There is tournament games, there is informal games... etc.
If I am playing a tournament and the other player wals out the room and get in his car and leave the place, while his time is runing down. I would care nothing about it. At least OTB game I saw him walk out the place, I can stand up too and wonder arround. Becouse tournements are rule tigth, and I am sopouse to be more profecional and keep it together while the other player is on the airport taking his plane to Brazil, or whaever.
If I am playing a friendly game with someone. And this person, sudenly, out of nowhere, just stands up and walk away. I must certanly think that person is a freak. I would probably yield: "hey!, where the hell are you going?".
On the online games, there is not way to know if the other person stands up, or whaever...
I think I have repeted my point enougth times. I don't wnat to create a rule, I whant people to be considered with the other player and if you are quiting the game, then resign.
Now. I am tires of explaing this thing over and over againg, I am not going to go over this same point in this message againg. Instead of that I going to do something else.
I want to create a rule, that if a person is having a hart atack that person have to resing before die. Becouse you are wasting the time of the other player. So the rule says:
"If we learn that a person died while playing a game, and didn't resign before passing away, then we will close that person's account for wasting the time of the other player".
Does it sound good to you?
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