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There's no reason to abort a game outside of the opponent not playing the opening move for a long time and it sounds like chess.com has a fix in for that (but may need to improve it).
Trying to only play a specific color - guess what, chess is about playing both sides and learning how to play both sides. Learning only how to play one side isn't helping you in any way.
Afraid to play higher rated players - First, you should want to. I enjoy a game against a higher rated opponent because it helps me learn. Second, you can set up limits to determine what ratings you will be matched with.
Afraid to play a lower rated opponent - If they're lower rated what are you afraid of? Also every game helps you improve and as I said above you can set limits anyway.
Same opponent you've played before - Why wouldn't you want to play them again? You will both have learned from the last game and it will be a whole new and interesting game.
Opponents from certain countries - That is baffling and simply sounds prejudice.
Bad connection of opponent - Either their connection will prove bad enough that it will time out before the first move or it will be fine. Remember that a ping of 1000ms (which is considered bad in most latency tests) is lag of just 1 second so it should be fine.
Don't have time for a game - Then don't start one? Or start one with a time structure you have time for. Essentially you should assume that each player will use every last second and make sure you have time for that. So don't pick a 30 minute game unless you have a free hour.
I can't even think of anything else, but really if you feel the need to abort games and it isn't due to the other opponent taking forever to make their first move then to be honest you need to look inside of yourself and find out what is making you feel it is necessary to not just sit down and play a respectful game of chess.
^ What he she or it said!
Sorry, no idea of your gender. The Xs around your name give a female vibe but beyond that, who knows. But yes, I agree entirely with what you've said, and while I speak only for myself, I'd hazard a guess that what you've said is an opinion shared by most people.
Alas, there's clearly a sizeable minority who think otherwise, though.
There's no reason to abort a game outside of the opponent not playing the opening move for a long time
I abort for several and various reasons.
However, if Chess.com will give me a satisfactory explanation as to how this harms my opponents I will certainly give serious consideration to discontinuing the practice.
I'd love to hear them because I am fairly sure they'll all sound silly or petty.
When your opponent commits the time to beginning a game, especially when you are a few moves in, the expectation is that they're in for a full game. Causing them to waste time playing a game that doesn't actually materialize, is rude and inconsiderate if done frivolously. There are legitimate reasons to abort a game, but there is a real negative impact to your opponent any time it happens.
I know people who think that playing chess is silly or petty. These things are very much a matter of opinion.
when the opposite player with higher rating is not playing move for more than 2 to 5 minutes then i abort....................
That is totally unacceptable to me. I usually play 30 minute games and there are times that I view a certain move (usually in the late middle) to be so critical that I have to take extra time to analyze it in my head. The time it takes me can sometimes take up to 5 minutes!!!
Usually most peoples playes games with 10 to 15 minustes rather than 30 minutes & with 10 to 15 minutes game 2 to 5 minutes break means a lot. If u r playing 30 minutes games then it's ok.............
i only abort on the odd occassion where the oppositions rank is so low that i only go up 1 or 2 ranks/ refusing to move/ i have to leave as soon as the game starts
You know you cna constrain the rating range of your opponents when you create a seek, right?
Okay, so it's a matter of opinion. Seems like common opinion is considerably in favour of making it more difficult to abort for those who do it frequently. I would say the burden of proof is on you right now.
I agree that aborting a game due to the nationality of your opponant should not be allowed, but I can understand it ... for example, if a Vietnamese flag pops up next to my opponent's username, I generally assume I'm screwed, regardless of their rating . Sorry if that sounds like stereotyping, but I feel it's true. Both in person and on this site, individuals with a Vietnamese background tend to crush me.
Of course, I don't abort these games, I'm just attempting to shed some light on why some others might.
There are some other reasons to abort that you didn't mention, which I only think of because they happened to me and they were the reasons I've aborted games before.
As I wrote in an earlier post, I've aborted games twice ... once because I was careless and somehow entered a 10' game when I'd intended to enter a 30' game, and the other time because either my computer or this site was acting up, and only 48 of the 64 squares were visible to me. Although some might disagree, I think I was OK in aborting both games, since I did it within the first moves.
Maybe I should have gritted my teeth and played out the 10' game, but rather than spend 10-20 minutes playing a type of chess I have little interest in, or making my opponant spend 20-30 seconds searching for a new opponant, I'll admit I took the selfish route.
To be honest, I'm not sure if I agree that your opponant taking lots of time for his/her first move is good grounds for aborting. Obviously it's annoying, but if my opponant wants to use up all his/her time on the 1st move, whatever. By entering into the game, I've agreed to allow them 30' to do what they want with their moves, and if they want to squander it on their first move, it's (literally) not my loss.
However, I agree with the majority of your post. You make some very good points on a number of the issues.
But your pattern of aborts and how and when you do them is some form of secret spy communication, don't you see?
I would say the burden of proof is on you right now.
I am assuming "you" means me but I have no idea what I am being asked to prove.
I have simply wondered if it might not help the discussion if Chess.com told us [ or me, at any rate] how aborting a game harms an opponent.
But you poohed-poohed Grobe's response as "subjective," so I pointed out that generally people here seem to be in favour of punitive actions against frequent aborters; i.e, they align themselves with Grobe's subjective response. Therefore, it should be up to you to convince the rest of us that it is wrong to punish aborters.
chess.com doesn't play live chess. The players do, and the players have already given several answers to your question.
Wasn't the question subjective in nature? What answer could possibly have been objective? I mean, I think we can agree that it doesn't cause physical or financial injury that can be measured, so the damages are all almost assuredly subjective.
can black have a longer first move till auto abort time? ive been auto aborted more than once while playing black. often im trying to formulate the best counter to open with. also maybe an option to select a loud tone/chime to indicate the match has be started. playing 30 min games sometimes takes a min or two waiting for a challanger in my rating bracket. so im paying attention to the chat box and have compleatly missed the game started. just my imput. any of it helpful?
Samantha. you say you have sevrel and verious reasons. why aren't you willing to share those with us. i believe you represent the type of ppl that this arose over. if they are reasons that you are ashamed over than yes they are probibly wrong reasons. make your rating option -300 +-100. you should win every time. probem solved.
Geez Grobe, whose side are you on anyway? Not only was theoreticalboy supporting your previous reply to Samantha, I thought his points were "spot on". The abort phenonomen inflicts real consequences -- (pain is not ONLY a physical thing). I believe that it's entirely appropriate for Chess.com to take punitive measures for such behavior. I thought you were in agreement.
He was in agreement; he was merely adding to the answer.
Plus, I'm fundamentally in disagreement with everyone. You could say I'm downright disagreeable.
It's true; we've learned not to take it personally. Best way is to just throw him a puck and a hockey stick and let him tire himself out.
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