2 Clever 4 U (Mate-in-three)

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15th August 2008, 12:52am
#1
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521

Okay, so I was told that this deserves its own thread, so here it is. Composed by K Fabel White to play and mate in three.

15th August 2008, 09:50am
#2
by benws
NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 1168

as i said before, this was posted by someone else in February. but still, it's pretty nice. i won't post the solution and give it away. Cool

15th August 2008, 10:06am
#3
by shuttlechess92
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 1911

very nice and what a confusing arrange of pieces!

15th August 2008, 10:23am
#4
by rush40
USA United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
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o_O

15th August 2008, 10:26am
#5
by NotKasparov
Wilmington (near Philadelphia) United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 354

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?

15th August 2008, 01:33pm
#6
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521

NotKasparov wrote:

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?


I wouldn't, but others might. Is there some reason to?

16th August 2008, 06:20pm
#7
by NotKasparov
Wilmington (near Philadelphia) United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 354

TonightOnly wrote:

NotKasparov wrote:

I take it you would mind if I post the solution?

 


I wouldn't, but others might. Is there some reason to?


Well, others may want to know (I usually fall into "alright, I can't find it, just tell me what it is!" category), and it may be interesting to look for holes in my solution.

But, admittedly, there is some virtue in not posting the solution.  I'm in the "just tell me" category, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

17th August 2008, 12:35am
#8
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521

Well, it doesn't much matter anymore. Benws pointed out that this puzzle has already been discussed in another thread.

7th January 2009, 04:08am
#9
by ajedresdetorre
Philippines
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 68

If they can solve the puzzle, they have every right to post their answer. However, if by means of some software, they are NOT welcome.

I think that this should be the policy, posting the answer after a week or so, after an exhaustive discussion and reasoning.

It will be a very interesting forum, I might say!

7th January 2009, 05:04am
#10
by BorgQueen
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 5018

Too clever for me.  I never get these fabricated mate puzzles.

7th January 2009, 12:50pm
#11
by West-End-Girl
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 15

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?

7th January 2009, 12:58pm
#12
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1469

I solved this WITH SOFTWARE and can barely understand the answer after looking at it!!! This is a HARD PUZZLE!

7th January 2009, 01:04pm
#13
by Redferox
Santa Rosa United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 6
West-End-Girl wrote:

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?


 You can promote a pawn to any higher piece except king of course :)

7th January 2009, 01:09pm
#14
by West-End-Girl
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 15
Redferox wrote:
West-End-Girl wrote:

based on the other link posted above (post #8, last check) - dumb q cos i'm a big time novice over here - i thought that if a pawn got to the other side, it became a queen - how come they got another knight?


You can promote a pawn to any higher piece except king of course :)


oh i see - so - assuming that *one* fine day, I get my pawn to the other side, lol - will it give me an option to choose which piece to promote the lucky pawn to?

7th January 2009, 01:09pm
#15
by david4real
Cyberjaya Malaysia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2

I do know d lines for white would be bx=Bc8 followed by Bxd7#.. but then it's up to black to counter such moves.

7th January 2009, 01:14pm
#16
by david4real
Cyberjaya Malaysia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2

or simply bx=Nc8 followed by Nf8#

8th January 2009, 10:15am
#17
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521

Hmmm, yes okay, but black can counter these moves. So, these are not mate in three.

8th January 2009, 04:34pm
#18
by Tiger-13
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1277

why isn't it a problem board, and just a fen board? btw, what are the solutions?

8th January 2009, 10:06pm
#19
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521
Tiger-13 wrote:

why isn't it a problem board, and just a fen board?


What is the difference?

(Besides getting to see the solution before putting in the work)

8th January 2009, 10:13pm
#20
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521
Tiger-13 wrote:

btw, what are the solutions?


Why don't you try to figure it out? It really isn't that hard.

 

There aren't a great number of award-winning chess problems out there. I relish the chance to figure out these really clever ones. It may take a good deal of time, though.

 

Edit: I posted a hint on the next page.

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