Bh3.  dc... Bg2 mate.

Nice :)

this is just a test [ignore me]

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Black still loses if he skips a turn, it's just not mate in 2.

He never said he wouldnt, the idea of zugzwang still applies as black loses much faster (and indeed has chances if he could skip.)

If skipping a turn is allowed it's still mate in 3 (b7+ Ka7 b8=Q+ Ka6 Qb6#). So I don't know what you mean that black "has chances if he could skip".

The idea of zugzwang is that you make your position worse by moving. Since it's forced mate either way, I don't see how his position gets worse. Unless you really believe that the "much" faster mate in 2 is worse than mate in 3.

Indeed I do, Loomis, as any chess engine will inform you, mate in 2 is worse than mate in 3! Admittedly, I had not analysed the game to find the further mate-in-3.

Is that how you get your rating so high? Winning in fewer number of moves? Winning is winning, it doesn't matter how many moves it takes. "The computer says so" just isn't convincing. No serious player ever got checkmated and said "well, at least I lasted X number of moves."

I am aware of this Loomis, I was being slightly sarky when I used the computer as evidence for my rather silly comment earlier on in this thread.

nice one, vat am i saying...????????