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24th October 2007, 12:21pm
#1
by apple127
Bangor United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 40

here is a nice puzzle.

 after I moved the queen, it was a sure win. Do you see why?

24th October 2007, 12:33pm
#2
by Etienne
Montreal, Quebec Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 780

I found an error in your puzzle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 It's spelled Spassky.


24th October 2007, 12:35pm
#3
by wetpaste
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 118
how can you take your own piece?
24th October 2007, 12:37pm
#4
by fischer
Iceland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 446

What kind of puzzle is this???

 

I have a hard time believing your FIDE rating is 2456 (as stated in your profile). 


24th October 2007, 12:38pm
#5
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4945
My guess is that all of the white pieces that are on their startings square should not be part of the diagram. So, remove all of the white pawns, the two white bishops, the knight on b1 and the rook on a1.
24th October 2007, 12:52pm
#6
by fischer
Iceland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 446

Still doesn't make sense. He said 1 Qb2 when 1 Qh8+ Bh2 2 Nxf2# wins.


24th October 2007, 12:55pm
#7
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
When someone claims to have a fide rating doesnt it get checked by chess.com management?  I feel the same as you do Fischer about the rating in his profile.
24th October 2007, 01:10pm
#8
by fischer
Iceland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 446

Reb, I also thought that this was verified, but perhaps it only applies to those who request a GM, IM, FM, or NM listing? I don't know...


24th October 2007, 01:11pm
#9
by Etienne
Montreal, Quebec Canada
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 780
They can't just check everyone who writes a rating, it's an endless job. Any kid can write whatever he want, there's what, almost 50 000 users now? It doesn't really matter too...
24th October 2007, 01:23pm
#10
by NM Reb
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 7857
Wrong E, anyone claiming a FIDE rating can certainly be checked at www.fide.com. Its actually very simple .
24th October 2007, 01:25pm
#11
by fischer
Iceland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 446

I thought that FIDE ratings were verified since so few people have them and because I don't see a box for FIDE ratings on the "Edit Profile Info" page. (Unless it's the box labeled "Elo Rating" right under "USCF Rating") But you're right, in the end it doesn't matter because it's quite obvious that this 13-year-old is NOT rated 2456.


27th October 2007, 07:19am
#12
by apple127
Bangor United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 40
I know I posted the puzzle wrong, the pawns and the rook knight and bishops aren't supposed to be there. imagine the puzzle without them. without those pieces, set the puzzle up on your own board, that is the puzzle, Qb2 is a great move.
27th October 2007, 01:57pm
#13
by zam5
Washington State United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 47
I see
29th October 2007, 10:44am
#14
by apple127
Bangor United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 40
told you.
29th October 2007, 11:00am
#15
by mxdplay4
mids UK England
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 737
xbigboy has got competition at last. Tongue out
29th October 2007, 11:15am
#16
by bullshark
Port Elizabeth, South Africa South Africa
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 3455
How can u take your own piece
29th October 2007, 11:49am
#17
by theCandyman
Atlanta United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 113
I believe this is the position that apple127 wanted to show. It is not actually from a real game, but a puzzle from V. Daiconu in an issue of Die Waarheid, 1967. Please give credit where it is due, everyone.
29th October 2007, 12:36pm
#18
by fleiman
Carmiel Israel
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 412
So, it's mate in two.
29th October 2007, 01:00pm
#19
by tanmay_chakrabarti
Uttarpara India
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 2093
Qb2 an incredible move.
29th October 2007, 03:36pm
#20
by BlueKnightShade
Denmark
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 409

apple127 wrote: after I moved the queen, it was a sure win. Do you see why?

That doesn't make any sense in the position you posted. Your position is a mate in one. I think it is a good drill for you to find it. So yes, the position is certainly a sure win (there are also many different ways to make a mate in two in that position, but there is no reason to use two moves when one move is enough).

 

theCandyman wrote: I believe this is the position that apple127 wanted to show. It is not actually from a real game, but a puzzle from V. Daiconu in an issue of Die Waarheid, 1967. Please give credit where it is due, everyone.

That is a real beauty. I think that apple127 missed the beaty of this puzzle by adding all those extra pieces and thus missing the points. In the position that you posted if it had been black's turn he would have two possible moves, either advancing his pawn or moving his bishop to h2. After white's first move 1.Qb2! black has even one possibility more, he can now also play Kh2. But no matter what he does he gets checkmated, either by 2.Qg2#, 2.Qh8#, 2.Nxf2# or 2.Ng3# all depending on which move black did.

Any other first move but Qb2! won't make it a mate in two. A very nice problem.


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