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21st October 2008, 11:05am
#1
by charlierock
Bronx,New York United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 3331

this is a position that i saw at central park when i went there this month at an event,i solved it after a few tries,good luck finding the move,btw white to play and draw                                                                              

21st October 2008, 11:10am
#2
by Qxe8
California United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 206

1.Re6 and white wins. Am I missing something? 1.Re6 Qxe6 Nc5+

21st October 2008, 11:27am
#3
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166

I don't get it... what's wrong with 4... Qxf6? (then 5 e8=Q  Qg7#, or 5 e8=N Qh8#)

 

Are you sure the original position is correct? Undecided

21st October 2008, 11:36am
#4
by camembert
England
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 1494

Methinks the whole thing has got flipped somehow; White should actually be moving down the board in the position as posted. The correct FEN ought to be 7b/8/kq6/8/8/1N2R3/K2P4/8

It's a study by Leonid Kubbel, by the way.

21st October 2008, 11:36am
#5
by TehPantz
Oregon United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 120

oh nice, its a Stalemate, The king woudn't be able to move after the queen takes the rook.

21st October 2008, 11:38am
#6
by skiingisfun69
Los Angeles United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 52

Rd3 wins for white.

21st October 2008, 11:39am
#7
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166
TehPantz wrote:

oh nice, its a Stalemate, The king woudn't be able to move after the queen takes the rook.


It's not stalemate... the white pawn can move.

21st October 2008, 11:40am
#8
by TehPantz
Oregon United States
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its blocked by the queen after the queen takes rook.

21st October 2008, 11:41am
#9
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166
skiingisfun69 wrote:

Rd3 wins for white.


Read the game notes, Re6 (you called it d3) does not win... Qa7 holds.

21st October 2008, 11:44am
#10
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166

Ok, so we're guessing that:

1. The puzzle is upside down... white is at the top! (It's a convention that white starts at the bottom, otherwise we won't know where we are).

2. All the moves in the solution are also incorrectly annotated.

 

This would make sense of the puzzle.

 

p.s the puzzle "as is" although flawed, is probably still a draw, just not "amazing".

21st October 2008, 11:47am
#11
by promotedpawn
Somewhere out there Great Britain
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 768
Qxe8 wrote:

1.Re6 and white wins. Am I missing something? 1.Re6 Qxe6 Nc5+


thats exactly what I thought!

21st October 2008, 11:47am
#12
by rileyriley
Iowa United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 83
Ray_Brooks wrote:
skiingisfun69 wrote:

Rd3 wins for white.


Read the game notes, Re6 (you called it d3) does not draw... Qa7 holds.


Isn't Qa7 illegal?

21st October 2008, 11:51am
#13
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166
rileyriley wrote:
Ray_Brooks wrote:
skiingisfun69 wrote:

Rd3 wins for white.


Read the game notes, Re6 (you called it d3) does not draw... Qa7 holds.


Isn't Qa7 illegal?


No, read the solution...the first move is 1 Ne5 therefore the pawn stands on e7, not d2. The problem as it stands is flawed.

21st October 2008, 11:52am
#14
by charlierock
Bronx,New York United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 3331

I made the mistake,the white king is actually at  h2,and the pawn is at e2,sorry guys and gals!This is the correct position:-)                   

21st October 2008, 11:55am
#15
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166

Now THAT'S amazing! Tongue out

21st October 2008, 05:35pm
#16
by lotus_elise
olongapo Philippines
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 428

nice:)

21st October 2008, 06:49pm
#17
by Qxe8
California United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 206

Uh.. Re6 still works in the correct position.

21st October 2008, 06:50pm
#18
by camembert
England
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Member Points: 1494

Re6 doesn't work at all. After ...Qxe6 Nc5+ is illegal because the queen pins it.

21st October 2008, 06:56pm
#19
by Qxe8
California United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 206
camembert wrote:

Re6 doesn't work at all. After ...Qxe6 Nc5+ is illegal because the queen pins it.


 Aha, i missed that. In that case, very nice puzzle.

22nd October 2008, 09:53am
#20
by charlierock
Bronx,New York United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 3331

Yeah,nice puzzle;I thought that the rook move was good,but the knight gets pinned after queen takes rook!

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