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An Easy Nostalgic Puzzle (1737)

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12th November 2007, 06:54am
#1
by bizimtansu
Konya, Türkiye Turkey
Member Since: Oct 2007
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This is an old puzzle from the book of Phillip Stamma(1737) who is a strong player of his time and also the creator of the notation that we use.

12th November 2007, 07:12am
#2
by monty
London England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 84

Why couldn't black play Qf5 to get out of trouble?


12th November 2007, 08:14am
#3
by bizimtansu
Konya, Türkiye Turkey
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 27
yeah posible. 1700's thought is not like today. As i said it is an old puzzle. But i think black is giving the rook after Qf5 , by same like of aproach. 2.Nf7+ ... RxN (if ..Kg8 Ne7#) QxR
12th November 2007, 08:42am
#4
by monty
London England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 84
bizimtansu wrote: yeah posible. 1700's thought is not like today. As i said it is an old puzzle. But i think black is giving the rook after Qf5 , by same like of aproach. 2.Nf7+ ... RxN (if ..Kg8 Ne7#) QxR

after 3. QxR .. Nb8xNc6 so it would be rook for two knights

4. Rxc6 looks like it could get white into trouble, but i'd need to spend longer than i want to looking at it (there's the threat of Qf3+ to win the rook and also to push the pawn for promotion if the white queen defends the rook)


12th November 2007, 04:54pm
#5
by ChessSoldier
Pittsburgh United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
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Qf5 fails to Ne7, which threatens checkmate (Ng6#) if the queen moves off g6 and Qg8+ followed by Nf7# if that threat isn't covered.  The knight checks only buy black some time.
12th November 2007, 05:37pm
#6
by monty
London England
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 84

The knight check coupled with that passed pawn buys tempo to get the queen out then take the knight threatening mate with the pawn on f6. 

Can someone run it through their chess analyser and see if there's a forced mate?


 

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