# An original puzzle

• 19 months ago · Quote · #2

Rating 2396 and you can't solve this simple puzzle?!

lol

• 19 months ago · Quote · #3

Give the answer then Borg.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #5

Tried for a bit, very tough because of drawing resources.  I'm having trouble making a position with 2 threats where there's no stalemate or drawn pawn endgame.

So I don't think it's too simple because the queen can often sac itself for either piece to make a draw pretty easily.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #6

Hahaha!  I was just teasing Kacparov here, I have no idea how to solve it :-p

When you do find the answer, please post it!

• 19 months ago · Quote · #7

I think I might be able to solve this with endgame tablebases, just by myself would probably be too hard

• 19 months ago · Quote · #8

Good luck!  I found it impossible to avoid a win by the queen-side let alone stopping draws and having the knight side win!  I only gave it 20 minutes though.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #9
stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

I think I might be able to solve this with endgame tablebases, just by myself would probably be too hard

Yeah, that'd be pretty easy, just look through the 7 million different combinations of 5 pieces on 64 squares and you'll have it in no time!

And hey, because of mirror positions and possibly more than 1 solution, you may have only 1 or 2 million to look through.  Good luck.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #10

I kept trying to make this type of thing work, but I decided it can't and has to be something else :)

Threatens two different mates, lookin good?

But there are too many checks on the 6th rank, the most annoying is just Qf6+ because of the stalemate.

Queen close to same rank or file as king eliminates lots of checks.  I also tried to use knight as fodder to hamper the queen.  But in those cases couldn't set up a threatening enough position.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #11

I tried similar positions, there's just no way I could find to stop checks that lead to either a draw or win for the queen-side.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #12

Wow wafflemaster, ? What I obviously meant is that there may be a line where white can queen that is a winning KQN vs KQ. Looking at all such positions (the KQN vs KQ that can arise) and seeing whether they are a win or a draw would be too much for me.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #14

*Spoilers*

edit: fortunately that doesn't really help any, either

• 19 months ago · Quote · #15

It may be able to give the answer

• 19 months ago · Quote · #16

That's closer than I got Kacparov, still no cigar tho! :-)

• 19 months ago · Quote · #18

E mail one of the IMs or GMs on here, and ask them.

• 19 months ago · Quote · #19
stubborn_d0nkey wrote:

Wow wafflemaster, ? What I obviously meant is that there may be a line where white can queen that is a winning KQN vs KQ. Looking at all such positions (the KQN vs KQ that can arise) and seeing whether they are a win or a draw would be too much for me.

That was my idea too, but I was too lazy to go look up in one of my endgame books to learn when Q+N can beat Q and then try to come up with some clever way to force that position.

That would be a good way to approach the problem though.

(And putting random positions in an EGTB may take a long time).

• 19 months ago · Quote · #20

This position is from a Troitzky's study